On Jan 15, 2008, at 18:22 , Steve Eppley wrote:
> Daniel Radetsky wrote:
>> Whatever
>> you think of range voting, it is a voting system and GST, AT,
>> etc., do not
>> apply to it.
>
> (Arrow's theorem can be written to apply to Range Voting and Approval
> and all methods. From the perspectiv
Stéphane Rouillon wrote:
I am fed up a bit with that discussion about non-monotonicity because it
depends how
monotonicity is defined. IRV is monotonic when you consider adding or
retrieving
ballots with you preffered candidate as first choice. IRV is non-monotonic
when
you consider higheri
I am fed up a bit with that discussion about non-monotonicity because it
depends how
monotonicity is defined. IRV is monotonic when you consider adding or
retrieving
ballots with you preffered candidate as first choice. IRV is non-monotonic
when
you consider highering or lowering the positions
Chris,
--- Chris Benham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> >>I am very angry when I think about how referendums are conducted in
> >>Taiwan.
> >>
> >>a- stupid 50% rule.
> >>---
> >>
> >>For the result of a referendum to be valid, at least 50% of the
> >>*registered voters* must pa
On Jan 15, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Steve Eppley wrote:
> The strategy of raising a candidate in order to defeat it may
> legitimately be counted as one more strategy in the voter's toolbox of
> strategies, but I think the (narrow) question here is whether the
> number
> of manipulable scenarios is gre
In Quebec, referendums about municipal defusions were held.
To win, defusionist camp had to collect results with both:
- at least 35% of participation;
- 50%+1 of support among the expressed votes.
The 35% seemed a good compromise showing people had interest
and knowing some persons just don't car
On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:40 AM, Kevin Venzke wrote:
> The rule that a majority of voters must vote is unfortunate because it
> means that by showing up to vote "No" you can cause the proposal to
> succeed.
>
> But in my opinion, to avoid government abuse of referendum, they
> should not
> pass or f
Kevin Venzke wrote:
Hi,
--- Augustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
I am very angry when I think about how referendums are conducted in
Taiwan.
a- stupid 50% rule.
---
For the result of a referendum to be valid, at least 50% of the
*registered voters* must participate.
Hi,
Daniel Radetsky wrote:
-snip-
> Obviously, I did not mean that monotonicity was sufficient for
> non-manipulability. What I meant was that if a method is non-monotonic, then
> in virtue of its being non-monotonic it has one more way it can be
> manipulated.
-snip-
The strategy of raising a ca
Hi,
--- Augustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> I am very angry when I think about how referendums are conducted in
> Taiwan.
>
> a- stupid 50% rule.
> ---
>
> For the result of a referendum to be valid, at least 50% of the
> *registered voters* must participate. I.e. if at l
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