[Election-Methods] A better IRV (was Re: Range Voting won't eliminate spoilers)

2008-03-17 Thread Steve Eppley
Greg doesn't need to twist my arm to get me to agree about spoiling in Range Voting, depending on the validity of the assumptions one must make (due to lack of empirical data using RV in high stakes public elections) about voters' strategizing. Also, as Greg implicitly pointed out where he wro

Re: [Election-Methods] Range Voting won't eliminate spoilers

2008-03-17 Thread Greg Dennis
Excellent points, Juho. I'll just add a few more. - You're right, Nader supporters could learn that it's in their best interest to give Gore a '10'. Under plurality, they could also learn that it's in their best interest to vote for Gore instead of Nader. Although they could learn the best strateg

Re: [Election-Methods] Election-Methods Digest, Vol 45, Issue 18

2008-03-17 Thread Greg Dennis
Great comments, Steve. I think you're basically right, though I'll mildly disagree on a couple things . . . > However, IRV is worse at eliminating spoilers than some other methods. > It also undermines candidates who take centrist compromise positions, by > defeating them and making them appear

[Election-Methods] Plurality vs A/R/I/C/Other

2008-03-17 Thread Dave Ketchum
I will talk of these in the order listed: Plurality, Approval, Range, IRV, and Condorcet. Other is simply any other method - which do not get discussed because I have not heard of them as competitive with those discussed. Three candidates: H(ot) - I WANT this one to win. C(old) - I