Reasons why Range is better and always will be.
I would like to end the truce.
I'll be generous to the Condorcet camp and assume they suggest something
reasonable like RP, Schulze or River.
Property Related:
favorite betrayal, participation and consistency.
Implications:
1) It is always good to
Dear Greg,
Reasons why Range is better and always will be.
I would like to end the truce.
That won't work I guess. Using the term better alone is a major flaw of many
discussions here. Obviously, it all depends on what goals a method is expected
to achieve.
I'll be generous to the
I think his point is that he prefers any and all Condorcet methods over
IRV, and probably over any non-Condorcet method. I happen to agree.
--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Chris Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Chris Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [EM] IRV vs Condorcet vs Range/Score
To: EM
Hello,
--- En date de : Sam 11.10.08, Greg Nisbet [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
De: Greg Nisbet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet: [EM] Range Condorcet (No idea who started this argument, sorry; I am
Gregory Nisbet)
À: election-methods@lists.electorama.com
Date: Samedi 11 Octobre 2008, 2h01
Reasons
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:29:48 + (GMT)
From: Kevin Venzke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [EM] Range Condorcet (No idea who started this
argument, sorry; I am Gregory Nisbet)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Condorcet methods are the application of majority rule to elections which
have more than two candidates and which cannot sequester the electorate
for however many rounds it takes to produce a majority first-preference
winner. If we consider majoritarianism an irreducible part of democracy,
then
small correction:
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Greg Nisbet [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
So far some nice ideas have been proposed for measuring how effective a
multiwinner method is.
All of the ones proposed are based on n, let n be a list of utility scores
for the candidates.
1.
I would suggest that majoritarian voting reveals utilities better than
simply asking, because having made the effort to show up at the polls at
all there is no marginal cost to overstating how much utility (or
disutility) you expect from a given outcome. Which is why, as everyone
keeps pointing