Re: [EM] An interesting real election

2011-01-30 Thread Paul Kislanko
How is #1 not a Condorcet Winner, since #1 pairwise-beats every other alternative? _ From: election-methods-boun...@lists.electorama.com [mailto:election-methods-boun...@lists.electorama.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Myers Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:41 PM To: Election Methods Mailing

Re: [EM] An interesting real election

2011-01-30 Thread Paul Kislanko
Strike my previous reply... Didn't notice that #6 pairwise beat #1, but pairwise lost to #2-#5. Here's a case where I'd actually like to see instead of the pairwise matrix the matrix that shows counts of votes for #1, #2, ... #5. In particular, which is the Bucklin winner? #6 loses or ties

Re: [EM] An interesting real election

2011-01-30 Thread Andrew Myers
On 1/30/11 2:39 PM, Paul Kislanko wrote: Strike my previous reply... Didn't notice that #6 pairwise beat #1, but pairwise lost to #2-#5. Here's a case where I'd actually like to see instead of the pairwise matrix the matrix that shows counts of votes for #1, #2, ... #5. In particular, which is

[EM] HB240 could lead to Approval voting in New Hampshire

2011-01-30 Thread Michael Rouse
HB240 is a New Hampshire bill to allow Approval voting for all state offices and Presidential primaries. Here is the link to the Slashdot story: http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/01/30/1911232/New-Hampshire-Bill-Could-Lead-To-Adoption-of-Approval-Voting#comments I would be very happy to

Re: [EM] HB240 could lead to Approval voting in New Hampshire

2011-01-30 Thread Jan Kok
This is a HUGE deal! I believe there will be a hearing on this bill at the NH State Legislature this TUESDAY. Can anyone go and testify in its favor, either this Tuesday, or possibly at some later hearings? Thanks, - Jan On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Michael Rouse mrou...@mrouse.com wrote:

Re: [EM] An interesting real election

2011-01-30 Thread Aaron Armitage
1 has a path to 6 at least as strong as 6's path to 1, namely 136, at 15-11 and 14-11. It seems a little odd, to me at least, that 6's path to 1 should benefit 2 but not 6 itself. Starting from the top seems the only way of ensuring that the path that orders the two candidates relative to each

Re: [EM] An interesting real election

2011-01-30 Thread Andrew Myers
It's a little tough to spot without the coloring that CIVS does, but #1 loses pairwise to #6. This makes #2 win according to Schulze. As Markus points out, #2 is the candidate with the weakest pairwise defeat (13-9 vs the 14-13 defeat of #1 by #6). -- Andrew On 1/30/11 2:33 PM, Paul Kislanko

Re: [EM] An interesting real election

2011-01-30 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Aaron, --- En date de : Dim 30.1.11, Aaron Armitage eutychus_sl...@yahoo.com a écrit : 1 has a path to 6 at least as strong as 6's path to 1, namely 136, at 15-11 and 14-11. It seems a little odd, to me at least, that 6's path to 1 should benefit 2 but not 6 itself. When you say benefit do