Re: [EM] Something better than wv for Schulze's CSSD

2011-06-23 Thread Juho Laatu
On 22.6.2011, at 2.53, fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote: I am more convinced than ever that the best way to measure defeat strength in Beatpath (aka CSSD) is by giving the covering relation the highest priority Being uncovered is a positive criterion in the sense that it tries to improve the outcome

Re: [EM] Remember Toby

2011-06-23 Thread Juho Laatu
What is the difference between least extra votes and MinMax(margins)? Isn't least extra votes pretty much the definition of MinMax(margins)? (assuming that the extra votes rank the candidate in question first) Juho On 22.6.2011, at 10.28, Jameson Quinn wrote: My impression was that the

Re: [EM] Remember Toby

2011-06-23 Thread Jameson Quinn
2011/6/23 Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk What is the difference between least extra votes and MinMax(margins)? Isn't least extra votes pretty much the definition of MinMax(margins)? (assuming that the extra votes rank the candidate in question first) Sorry, you're right. I was thinking that

[EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-23 Thread fsimmons
From: Jameson Quinn To: robert bristow-johnson Cc: Markus Schulze , election-meth...@electorama.com Subject: Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method and we've all been groping for a name for this primary voting criteria that is not this non-American, Frenchie, probably

[EM] round robin tournaments

2011-06-23 Thread fsimmons
In sports round robin tournaments where burial strategy is meaningless, what is the best measure of defeat strength? In other words, if you were going to use, say, beatpath to find a total order of the teams from best to worst after the conclusion of a tournament, would you use wv, margins,

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-23 Thread Paul Kislanko
Marcus wrote: Maskin's argumentation doesn't work because of the following reason: Whether an election method is good or bad depends on which criteria it satisfies. Now, if good and bad are defined by which criteria methods satisfy, it seems to me that having introduced judgement we need

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-23 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Paul Kislanko wrote: Marcus wrote: Maskin's argumentation doesn't work because of the following reason: Whether an election method is good or bad depends on which criteria it satisfies. Now, if good and bad are defined by which criteria methods satisfy, it seems to me that having