Newly posted so people can read it since it is currently unavailable
on the ssrn.com site. Warren's analysis of it he posted to this list
was off-base. The simple formula cannot be simplified further, like
Warren did, by removing all measures of district and state densities,
removing the weights,
> From: Warren Smith
>
> Dopp's pdf file has vanished (?); the URL she gave
> http://ssrn.com/abstract=1947297
> apparently now gives me only the (revised) abstract, not the full paper
> anymore.
Yes. I uploaded changes and I can't download the paper either. Will
check it again in the a.m. I can
It certainly fills out the matrix of available methods, but I'm not sure
when I'd actually use it. I'm more interested in hybrid
geographical/proportional methods these days, as I think such methods have
the best chance to prosper in the US or UK. It would be nice to even keep
existing district bou
I had an idea for how Condorcet methods could be used for an open list
Droop quota-based Proportional Representation method, as an
alternative to STV. I am motivated by these factors:
* I would like to avoid STV's elimination of candidates.
* I would like a PR method that requires only a singl
On 22.10.2011, at 1.42, Michael Allan wrote:
> Here is my latest attempt at a brief
> summary with conclusions: [2]
>
> An individual vote in a general election has no meaningful effect in
> the objective world, and no effect whatsoever on the political
> outcome of the election; whether the v
Hi Juho,
Juho Laatu wrote:
> I thought / think that
> - voluntary participation in whatever clubs, with possibility to
> influence others, and with possibility to vote in line with the
> club discussions or even agree to vote that way does not limit
> one's liberty to do whatever one wants
>
On 18.10.2011, at 16.26, Andrew Myers wrote:
> To collect this information, all you have to do is introduce a choice
> "approved" and let voters rank relative to that choice.
How about this practical ballot format:
(BEST)APPROVEDNOT APPROVED (WORST)
A
2011/10/21 Warren Smith
> Dopp's pdf file has vanished (?); the URL she gave
> http://ssrn.com/abstract=1947297
> apparently now gives me only the (revised) abstract, not the full paper
> anymore.
>
> Anyhow, let me concisely summarize her proposed
> Population Density Fairness measure.
> For a c
Dopp's pdf file has vanished (?); the URL she gave
http://ssrn.com/abstract=1947297
apparently now gives me only the (revised) abstract, not the full paper
anymore.
Anyhow, let me concisely summarize her proposed
Population Density Fairness measure.
For a country to be subdivided into N equipopulo
Jameson's email actually came through fine for me.
But I have definitely seen enough mangled emails to agree that fixed-width
can be problematic.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Warren Smith wrote:
> I suspect you intended some careful formatting which the web posting has
> obliterated, rend
I suspect you intended some careful formatting which the web posting has
obliterated, rendering this proposal essentially unreadable.
You can use dots
to.make...sure
things...are...aligned
at least if reader uses a constant width font.
--
Warren D. Smith
http://RangeVoting
I think this could be an efficient way to promote ranked methods (primarily
Condorcet methods). Physical presence in different plazas may attract also
media interest. The results could be also good material for the media.
The first phase of this approach is to collect the ballots. That informati
One note. I said below/earlier that the scenarios present a chicken dilemma.
I should have noted that, like most real-world chicken dilemmas, this one is
not perfect, as voter group a is not perfectly indifferent between
candidates B and C.
2011/10/21 Jameson Quinn
> I'd be interested in running
I'd be interested in running an behavioral-economics-type experiment on
voting behavior. I imagine a game matrix of 9 voters and 3 candidates, with
each candidate having a known payout for each player. For each condition,
we'd have a separate group of experimental subjects. We'd run two
non-binding
Jameson,
After further reflection, I think your claim #1 below is misleading
because if a plan was chosen with population density fairness (PDF)
value of nearly one (1), it would tend to have far fewer "safe"
districts than a plan with PDF value near two which was gerrymandered
to give a dispropor
Thanks Warren for composing the counterexamples. You are right. That
is the vestiges of a logic error I made earlier and thought I had
removed, but had not.
The paper still offers several valuable new insights including:
1. a new population density fairness measure that helps to judge the
propor
I thought / think that
- voluntary participation in whatever clubs, with possibility to influence
others, and with possibility to vote in line with the club discussions or even
agree to vote that way does not limit one's liberty to do whatever one wants
- one limitation to liberty could be the fa
Hi Fred,
> Bringing the individual voters together to make a decision is
> impractical in any community with more than a few people. Voting by
> ballot was adopted to remedy this problem.
That's true, thank you for pointing out the error. I imply that the
electoral system brings the votes physi
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