[EM] Sandy

2012-10-30 Thread augustin
To Fred, Adrian and other EM friends in New York and on the East coast: We all hope that you are all right. Let us know that you are dry and well when the power is restored and you are back online. augustin. Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] We should consider other claims, and not just try to justify our own positions. Only that is genuine discussion.

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Ossipoff
One reason why voting-system discussion doesn't get anywhere is because people are only trying to justify their pre-existing positions. Speaking for myself, I don't want to be like that. That isn't genuine discussion. Sure, the clone-independent properties of such methods as Beatpath have some val

Re: [EM] Sandy

2012-10-30 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 10/30/12 2:08 AM, augustin wrote: To Fred, Adrian and other EM friends in New York and on the East coast: We all hope that you are all right. Let us know that you are dry and well when the power is restored and you are back online. i live in Vermont but am presently "stuck" in San Francisco

[EM] Article: Answers to some traditional Condorcet arguments

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Hi Adrian-- It's important to answer arguments from people who claim that other voting systems are better, or that other criteria are more important. That's why I invited traditional unimproved Condorcet (TUC) advocates at the election-methods mailing list to tell what mitigating advantages TUC ha

Re: [EM] Article: Answers to some traditional Condorcet arguments

2012-10-30 Thread Richard Fobes
As long as Michael has mistakenly posted this DM article on the forum, I'll use this opportunity to say to Adrian that I have stopped reading Michael's articles at Democracy Chronicles for the reasons below. (And often I delete his posts here without reading them.) His DM articles go off into