[EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-15 Thread Benjamin Grant
I just started trying to wrap my brain around all the ins and outs about voting methods, and I wanted to check two things with my elders (on this subject): 1) As far as I can see, the reason IRV has some strange/unusual results is because it is absolutely critical what order you eliminate

Re: [EM] [CES #8790] Upper-Bucklin naming (was: Median systems, branding....)

2013-06-15 Thread Jameson Quinn
2013/6/15 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > At 07:52 PM 6/14/2013, Jameson Quinn wrote: > >> So. Abd and I now agree that a Bucklin system which uses just the >> above-median votes to break ties is probably the best first step towards >> median voting. >> > > Let's stop saying it that way. I'd be happy to.

Re: [EM] [CES #8782] Upper-Bucklin naming (was: Median systems, branding....)

2013-06-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:52 PM 6/14/2013, Jameson Quinn wrote: So. Abd and I now agree that a Bucklin system which uses just the above-median votes to break ties is probably the best first step towards median voting. Let's stop saying it that way. It's true, but it's confusing. First of all, you are using "tie"

Re: [EM] Upper-Bucklin naming (was: Median systems, branding....)

2013-06-15 Thread Jameson Quinn
2013/6/15 Andy Jennings > I also report that I was talking with a progressive activist (and former > legislator) here in Arizona last year who didn't like branding of the word > "majority". He was afraid it would be a turn-off to those who feel like > the wrong majority is already too dominant.

Re: [EM] Upper-Bucklin naming (was: Median systems, branding....)

2013-06-15 Thread Andy Jennings
I also report that I was talking with a progressive activist (and former legislator) here in Arizona last year who didn't like branding of the word "majority". He was afraid it would be a turn-off to those who feel like the wrong majority is already too dominant. ~ Andy On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at

Re: [EM] Upper-Bucklin naming (was: Median systems, branding....)

2013-06-15 Thread Andy Jennings
It does sound like this system will have better resistance to the Chicken Dilemma. I can support it, assuming noone finds any fatal flaws. I've thought about the top-down vs. bottom-up question and the naming for a while and can't form a strong opinion. Let me think about it some more. I heard