Re: [EM] Sociological issues of elections

2013-09-04 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
On 09/04/2013 04:21 AM, Fred Gohlke wrote: * It might be well to select a larger number initially and include an opt-out provision so those with no interest in politics can remove themselves from the process. That's a good point. The "electoral" commission could choose a larger number than th

Re: [EM] Sociological issues of elections

2013-09-04 Thread Fred Gohlke
Michael Allan said it best: "The individual votes are brought together to make a result, but the individual voters are not brought together as such to make a decision; therefore no valid decision can be extracted from the result." > Vidar Wahlberg wrote: > Giving the electors balanced

Re: [EM] Sociological issues of elections

2013-09-04 Thread Fred Gohlke
Thank you, very much, Mike. I didn't realize they had changed it. I'm keeping the new address and appreciate your help. Fred Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Sociological issues of elections

2013-09-04 Thread Michael Allan
Vidar Wahlberg said: > ... I would like to see a system where electors are encouraged to > gain insight and reflected views, and vote thereafter. Me too. I spend much of my time chasing such a system (as do Abd and Fred, I believe). Please share what you find. > ... Giving the electors balanced

Re: [EM] Possibly making Sainte-Lague even more STV-like

2013-09-04 Thread Vidar Wahlberg
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 12:14:36AM +0200, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: > If you're electing just one seat, then C should win; anything else > would be unfair to a majority. But if you're picking two, then if > you give the first seat to C, giving the second to L will bias the > assembly to L and g