[Election-Methods] Best electoral system under real circumstances

2007-11-19 Thread Diego Renato
- prohibit surplus transfers among different parties. - adoption of STV in the future. Do you agree with these measures? _______ Diego Renato dos Santos Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[Election-Methods] MMPO: the best 'transitional' method?

2007-09-03 Thread Diego Renato
As a newbie in this list, I have no preference about the best voting method. I am aware that instinctively Condorcet criterion is desirable if consensus does not exist, but approval or range can produce good results too. However, based in Bucklin experiences in USA, I think that any method that vi

Re: [Election-Methods] Deterministic tie-breakers

2007-08-23 Thread Diego Renato
naturally the first preference. In Brazil, if ties persist, the oldest candidate wins. >From: "Diego Renato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: election-methods@lists.electorama.com > >Subject: Re: [Electio

Re: [Election-Methods] Challenge: Elect the compromise when there're only 2 factions

2007-08-23 Thread Diego Renato
2007/8/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I dislike any undeterministic method, except for tie-braking > > And I dislike methods that give all power to only one half of the voters > and can be used to oppress 49% of the electorate :-) > In most societies, the "majority dictatorship"

Re: [Election-Methods] Challenge: Elect the compromise when there're only 2 factions

2007-08-23 Thread Diego Renato
2007/8/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Dear Rob! > > It is possible (otherwise I would not have posted this challenge :-) > > But of course it is not possible with a majoritarian method (that's what > you observed). > > Keep on, one of the possible solutions is really simple (though

Re: [Election-Methods] Challenge: Elect the compromise when there're only 2 factions

2007-08-22 Thread Diego Renato
2007/8/22, Jobst Heitzig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > A common situation: 2 factions & 1 good compromise. > > The goal: Make sure the compromise wins. > > The problem: One of the 2 factions has a majority. > > A concrete example: true ratings are >55 voters: A 100, C 80, B 0 >45 voters: B 100,

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-19 Thread Diego Renato
2007/8/18, Gervase Lam: > > > [With a reweight of 0 a] concern [is] that if you approve your > compromise > > candidate, who ends up being the most approved, you can weaken your > votes > > for your favorite candidate and cause him to fail to qualify for the > > second round. > > The ideal way to s

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-16 Thread Diego Renato
Correction: > 2nd count (1st round): > 22,5 Bush clone > 27 Gore <- selected for runoff. > 26 Nader > > Diego Santos Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-16 Thread Diego Renato
2007/8/16, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax: > At 04:00 PM 8/15/2007, Diego Renato wrote: > >All one-round voting systems that allows ballot truncation are > >vulnerable to bullet voting, resulting the same results of plurality > voting. > > "Vulnerable" implies that there i

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-16 Thread Diego Renato
2007/8/15, Dave Ketchum: > > On most elections many, if not most, voters' preference will be a single > candidate. Why is this something to fight? > One candidate can overshadow the competition. > Voters can be loyal to their party. For occasional exception elections there will be mor

[Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-15 Thread Diego Renato
All one-round voting systems that allows ballot truncation are vulnerable to bullet voting, resulting the same results of plurality voting. For instance, suppose that some voter has A as his/her first preference. S/he can vote like this: Approval: A: approved; B: rejected; C: rejected; D: rejected