c-span to cover these debates.
- Jan Kok
Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
There will be a debate among four alternative presidential candidates
this Tuesday, October 23, 6PM Pacific Time. See
FreeAndEqual.org
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If Richie/FairVote wants to focus their energy on pushing proportional
representation, that's wonderful! I personally won't "quibble" about
PR methods, and will support and vote for pretty much any PR method.
However, there will always be a need for single-winner methods, for
single-winner offices
>>> To review for other readers, we're talking about the scenario
>>>
>>> 48 A
>>> 27 C>B
>>> 25 B>C
>>>
>>> Candidates B and C form a clone set that pairwise beats A, and in fact C
>>> is the Condorcet Winner, but
>>> under many Condorcet methods, as well as for Range and Approval, there is
>>> a
This is a HUGE deal!
I believe there will be a hearing on this bill at the NH State
Legislature this TUESDAY. Can anyone go and testify in its favor,
either this Tuesday, or possibly at some later hearings?
Thanks,
- Jan
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Michael Rouse wrote:
> HB240 is a New Ha
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
wrote:
>> - If you vote for someone who gets more than the quota, then the
>> excess votes get passed on to help elect other candidates. So who did
>> you elect? Who is your representative?
>
> You elected your representative, the one you voted
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
wrote:
> If I'm represented, I want to know exactly who represents me!
Abd, I've heard you say that several times over the years. Why is that
important to you?
> Of all the systems I've seen, only Asset allows this, by creating a public
> tr
This is a very nice, clear explanation or PR-STV. I would suggest
mentioning that the quota is commonly set at greater than 1/(N+1)
times number of valid votes. Thus, with 5 seats and 600 votes, a
candidate who gets more than 100 votes is guaranteed a seat.
I'm not convinced that PR can lead to "i
Warren wrote:
> I have news for you. The concept of "strategic voting" is entirely
> about caring more about vanishingly small gains in utility than about
> honesty.
It's not vanishingly small if you think about it from a team perspective.
Teamwork is part of human nature. The cavemen probably
I understand quite well Warren's point that for 2 and 3-candidate
races, and with full ranking required, and equal ranking not allowed,
then Approval (with the "silly" votes excluded) and ranked ballots can
be encoded in the same number of bits. And yes, there is certainly an
algorithm for turning
GW Bush, although a majority preferred Gore.
Better methods include Approval Voting (mentioned above), Score
Voting, Condorcet Voting, and Bucklin Voting. All of those methods
would likely have chosen Montroll. See Wikipedia. org for details.
- Jan Kok, cofounder of ScoreVoting. net
4/4/2009 11:31:12 PM
Kathy,
Would you explain what you mean by "unequal treatment"?
Thanks,
- Jan
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Kathy Dopp wrote:
> FYI, I believe that this appeal by plaintiffs will prevail and I hope
> that will put an end to IRV/STV in the U.S. I haven't seen a copy of
> the actual Appeal do
-- Forwarded message --
From: brokenladdercalendar
Date: Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Subject: [RangeVoting] Vote for SCORE VOTING at change.gov
To: rangevot...@yahoogroups.com
http://citizensbriefingbook.change.gov/ideas/viewIdea.apexp?id=08780004qd8
This is Obama's officia
Click on the blue box to the left of the title "Implement Score Voting".
For those that may not have heard: Score Voting is a new, alternative
name for Range Voting.
Cheers,
- Jan
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:38 PM, wrote:
> I followed the link and added my comment, but I couldn't find a button
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Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Subject: [RangeVoting] Vote for Score Voting at Change.org
To: rangevot...@yahoogroups.com
Vote Here => http://www.change.org/ideas/view/implement_score_voting
Hey,
I wanted to see if I could
Right now I feel like I've been struck with divine inspiration. Hope I
don't wake up tomorrow feeling like an idiot. :-)
"Town E-meeting" is a way to
- disseminate information about competing proposals
- allow a controlled debate and negotiation among supporters of the
various proposals
- allow/en
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jan 17, 2008 7:14 AM
Subject: [electionwatcher2008] Tucson AZ may put voter's records on
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Published: 01.16.2008
County OKs paper ballots going online aft
Interesting point. There are several "locksmiths" in the voting
methods and voting equipment worlds who profit from selling "locks"
that *look* nice, but are complicated, expensive and not very secure.
They are not pleased when volunteer locksmiths point out that there
are other locks available tha
On Dec 26, 2007 3:18 PM, rob brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 26, 2007 2:11 PM, Jan Kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > With RV, you can weaken your vote (let others "take advantage" of
> > you). But it's STRICTLY VOLUNTARY.
> >
>
Oh, come on, Rob. Your analogy of common keys (enabling people to take
from each other at will) to Range Voting is broken.
With RV, you can weaken your vote (let others "take advantage" of
you). But it's STRICTLY VOLUNTARY. Juho's suggestion of individually
keyed inner doors and common keys for ou
On Dec 21, 2007 1:02 PM, rob brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2007 7:41 AM, Jan Kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Here's another, similar scenario. The choices are:
> > A. All people pay income tax in proportion to their income.
> > B. People w
Hi Rob,
I congratulate you for focusing on some questions that underlie the
endless debates about which is the "best", "fairest", etc. voting
method.
To restate the questions my own way: What do we _mean_ by "best",
"fairest", "most democratic", etc. Is there some standard (criterion,
figure of m
On Dec 7, 2007 7:54 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The case in Brown v. Smallwood was one where the result
> overturned by the court was clearly just, and the reversal -- a long
> time after the election -- was very poor public policy. Problem is
> that the voters counted on t
(Do you know some young people? Pass this along to them. I'd be
interested to hear their opinions.)
I was just thinking about the reasons in favor of proportional
representation and the types of "minorities" that are
under-represented in legislatures. Actually, women are a slight
majority in the U
> So: how could we determine a true consensus of election methods
> experts, or something even broader than that? Hint: Mr.
> Green-Armytage is one of the co-inventors of what might pull it off,
> though he mostly focused on it as an election method, whereas my own
> primary interest has been in NG
Rob Richie, Executive Director of Center for Voting and Democracy,
will give presentations on IRV and Proportional Representation
tomorrow, Wednesday Aug 22 sometime between 1 and 4PM Mountain Time,
to the Colorado Voter Choice Task Force. It should be possible to hear
the proceedings over the Inte
On 8/14/07, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Proportional representation through elections could seem an
> attractive solution, except that, in fact, it would only begin to
> touch the problem. Asset Voting, while it looks like an election, is
> actually a proxy system.
Very inter
On 8/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: AllAbout Voting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >[Jan Kok] Let's try a DP poll!
> > >...
> > >This is the proposed poll topic and title:
> > >*** What is the best place to h
On 8/2/07, AllAbout Voting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[Jan Kok] Let's try a DP poll!
> >...
> >This is the proposed poll topic and title:
> >*** What is the best place to host the US-Iraq Conflict forum?
> Jan,
>
> Can you give us more information ab
(To those not familiar with Delegable Proxy (DP), FA/DP, etc., please
check out metaparty.beyondpolitics.org , beyondpolitics.org and the
FAQs at http://www.beyondpolitics.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=BeyondPolitics
.)
Let's try a DP poll! Several reasons:
- I really am interested in the results
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