Re: [EM] Anyone got a good analysis on limitations of approval and range voting? (long)

2009-11-11 Thread Juho
In large elections with evenly spread voters and candidates and no strategies the distribution of Approval votes may indeed be such that the best candidate regularly wins. The situation may however be also different. I gave one simple example where the left wing had two candidates and the

Re: [EM] Anyone got a good analysis on limitations of approval and range voting? (long)

2009-11-11 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Matthew Welland wrote: Also, again, your single vote is irrelevant. except in a close election. It is the aggregate of thousands or millions of votes that will make or break A vs. B. How many feel so strongly against A that they cannot vote for him or her? T

Re: [EM] Anyone got a good analysis on limitations of approval and range voting? (long)

2009-11-10 Thread Matthew Welland
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 03:37:56 am Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: > Matthew Welland wrote: > > So, to re-frame my question. What is the fatal flaw with approval? I'm > > not interested in subtle flaws that result in imperfect results. I'm > > interested in flaws that result in big problems such

Re: [EM] Anyone got a good analysis on limitations of approval and range voting? (long)

2009-11-10 Thread Raph Frank
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: > IMHO, it is that you need concurrent polling in order to consistently elect > a good winner. If you don't have polling and thus don't know where to put > the cutoff (between approve and not-approve), you'll face the Burr dilemma: >

Re: [EM] Anyone got a good analysis on limitations of approval and range voting? (long)

2009-11-10 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Matthew Welland wrote: So, to re-frame my question. What is the fatal flaw with approval? I'm not interested in subtle flaws that result in imperfect results. I'm interested in flaws that result in big problems such as those we see with plurality and IRV. IMHO, it is that you need concurrent