Re: [EM] Comment on MJ discussion (Jameson Reply)

2013-01-09 Thread Jameson Quinn
OK, it seems that I have made one or more assertions which, if you believed them, would change your mind about MJ. Of all the times you said "unproven assertion" below, please tell me specifically which fall into each of the following categories: 1. You believe they are likely to be true, but still

[EM] Comment on MJ discussion (Jameson Reply)

2013-01-08 Thread Michael Ossipoff
I'd said: Exactly. Your letter-grades encourage sub-optimal voting. Jameson said: "Zero-info" optimal strategy is to vote on an absolute scale such that for recent elections you would have given equal numbers of each grade A-D and twice that number of Fs. (Or slightly more sophisticated: give th

Re: [EM] Comment on MJ discussion

2013-01-06 Thread Andy Jennings
> Removing a losing candidate from the ballots and from the election, > and then re-counting the ballots, shouldn't change the winner. > > Approval and Score pass. > Michael, I find it very inconsistent for you to argue so adamantly for voters to use maximal strategy and then to use a criterion th

Re: [EM] Comment on MJ discussion

2013-01-06 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/6/13 2:46 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: On 01/06/2013 01:54 AM, Michael Ossipoff wrote: We live in a technological society. Among some people, there's a tendency to worship science. Anything that;s more complex is felt to likely be better. That's MJ's mystique. It's just complicated e

Re: [EM] Comment on MJ discussion

2013-01-06 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
On 01/06/2013 01:54 AM, Michael Ossipoff wrote: We live in a technological society. Among some people, there's a tendency to worship science. Anything that;s more complex is felt to likely be better. That's MJ's mystique. It's just complicated enough that it's easy to obfuscate (for oneself) wh

Re: [EM] Comment on MJ discussion

2013-01-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
> Exactly. Your letter-grades encourage sub-optimal voting. > "Zero-info" optimal strategy is to vote on an absolute scale such that for recent elections you would have given equal numbers of each grade A-D and twice that number of Fs. (Or slightly more sophisticated: give the same score distribut