Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-24 Thread Juho Laatu
On 24.6.2011, at 3.47, Paul Kislanko wrote: Marcus wrote: Maskin's argumentation doesn't work because of the following reason: Whether an election method is good or bad depends on which criteria it satisfies. Now, if good and bad are defined by which criteria methods satisfy, it

[EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method (fsimm...@pcc.edu)

2011-06-24 Thread fsimmons
The first time I heard the phrase True Majority Winner was in the Scientific American article six or eight years ago on Condorcet Voting. The point of the article was that if you believe in majority rule, you should prefer electing the CW over any other alternative. But at the end of

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method (fsimm...@pcc.edu)

2011-06-24 Thread Warren Smith
I already emitted various criticisms of Eric Maskin... http://www.rangevoting.org/MaskinArrow.html http://www.rangevoting.org/Maskin.html http://www.rangevoting.org/NewSciMcKenna.html Maskin sometimes has favored Black's method (e.g. in a Scientific American piece he wrote which actually

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method (fsimm...@pcc.edu)

2011-06-24 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jun 24, 2011, at 4:40 PM, fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote: The first time I heard the phrase True Majority Winner was in the Scientific American article six or eight years ago on Condorcet Voting. The point of the article was that if you believe in majority rule, you should prefer electing the CW

[EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-23 Thread fsimmons
From: Jameson Quinn To: robert bristow-johnson Cc: Markus Schulze , election-meth...@electorama.com Subject: Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method and we've all been groping for a name for this primary voting criteria that is not this non-American, Frenchie, probably

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-23 Thread Paul Kislanko
Marcus wrote: Maskin's argumentation doesn't work because of the following reason: Whether an election method is good or bad depends on which criteria it satisfies. Now, if good and bad are defined by which criteria methods satisfy, it seems to me that having introduced judgement we need

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-23 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Paul Kislanko wrote: Marcus wrote: Maskin's argumentation doesn't work because of the following reason: Whether an election method is good or bad depends on which criteria it satisfies. Now, if good and bad are defined by which criteria methods satisfy, it seems to me that having

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-22 Thread Jameson Quinn
and we've all been groping for a name for this primary voting criteria that is not this non-American, Frenchie, probably sorta pinko-socialist secular humanist intellectual (did i mention *not* American?) whose heresy is leading us away from the One True Faith of the Single Affirmative Vote.

[EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-21 Thread Markus Schulze
Hallo, Eric Maskin, a Nobel laureate, is currently very active in promoting the Black method. The Black method says: If there is a Condorcet winner, then the Condorcet winner should win; if there is no Condorcet winner, then the Borda winner should win. See e.g.: 1 Sep 2009:

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-21 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Markus Schulze wrote: Hallo, Eric Maskin, a Nobel laureate, is currently very active in promoting the Black method. The Black method says: If there is a Condorcet winner, then the Condorcet winner should win; if there is no Condorcet winner, then the Borda winner should win. (...) Maskin's

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-21 Thread Peter Zbornik
Dear all, Why not write an open letter to him (i.e. publish the letter on this list) and invite him to further discuss on this list? I found Maskin's email: mas...@ias.edu in his CV, which is online. If hybrid methods is the way to go, then the forthcoming paper in Voting matters which Kristofer

Re: [EM] Eric Maskin promotes the Black method

2011-06-21 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Markus Schulze wrote: Hallo, Eric Maskin, a Nobel laureate, is currently very active in promoting the Black method. i have to confess, even though i had heard of ranked-choice voting before and had myself thought that what would later to be learned is called