Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-19 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi, --- En date de : Dim 19.10.08, Kristofer Munsterhjelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > That being said, I think the most promising area of > development here is > > based around the concept of a "conditional > vote" that came up a few > > threads ago. The idea here being that individual >

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-19 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Greg Nisbet wrote: Instant Range-off Voting is an interesting idea. I thought about it once a while ago too. I didn't renormalize the ballots though, I just set the co-highest to 100 and the co-lowest to 0 for each ballot as a sanitation measure. I eventually abadoned it due to nonmonotonicity,

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-16 Thread Diego Santos
2008/10/16 Brian Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Oct 15, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Peter Barath wrote: > > I'm not sure I would vote honestly in such circumstance. >> >> Let my "honest" rangings be: >> >> 100 percent for my favourite but almost chanceless Robin Hood >> 20 percent for the frontrunner Cinde

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-16 Thread Brian Olson
On Oct 15, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Peter Barath wrote: I'm not sure I would vote honestly in such circumstance. Let my "honest" rangings be: 100 percent for my favourite but almost chanceless Robin Hood 20 percent for the frontrunner Cinderella 0 percent for the other frontrunner Ugly Duckling I th

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-15 Thread Peter Barath
>Once upon a time, I designed an election method to fix the strategy >problem with Range Voting. > >The strategy problem: >You shouldn't cast a ballot with your honest ratings, you should >maximize them along Approval strategy lines. > >It also fixes the counting problem of how if someone does cast

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-15 Thread Raph Frank
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Brian Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, that's neat. I must have missed it the first time around. The thread got no replies, which was discouraging. I was considering extending it to other methods. I think the java, even for single seaters, gives a more int

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-15 Thread Raph Frank
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Brian Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mean the geometric sense. For ratings a,b,c,etc., sqrt(a*a + b*b + c*c > ...) It has the potential to cause cumulative voting like effects. This is especially true in the initial rounds. Approval and range votings main p

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-14 Thread Brian Olson
On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Raph Frank wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Brian Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Once upon a time, I designed an election method to fix the strategy problem with Range Voting. The method I call "Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings" (IRNR): 1. Collect ratin

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-14 Thread Brian Olson
Hey, that's neat. I must have missed it the first time around. The N parallel images of black/winning area actually show pretty well how various candidates win in multi-winner elections. Maybe I'll extend my software to do similarly. On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Raph Frank wrote: Btw, if

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-14 Thread Greg Nisbet
Instant Range-off Voting is an interesting idea. I thought about it once a while ago too. I didn't renormalize the ballots though, I just set the co-highest to 100 and the co-lowest to 0 for each ballot as a sanitation measure. I eventually abadoned it due to nonmonotonicity, but I think the discus

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-14 Thread Raph Frank
Btw, if we are bringing up old posts :p, any views on this page? http://ivnryan.com/ping_yee/results.html since you technically mentioned Yee diagrams. Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-14 Thread Raph Frank
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Brian Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once upon a time, I designed an election method to fix the strategy problem > with Range Voting. > The method I call "Instant Runoff Normalized Ratings" (IRNR): > 1. Collect ratings ballots > 2. Normalize each ballot so that

Re: [EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-14 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Hi, you wrote: > encourages people to vote honestly What makes you believe this? Yours, Jobst Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] Fixing Range Voting

2008-10-14 Thread Brian Olson
With all the talk about Range Voting and its plusses and minuses, I wanted to inject this back into the mix. Once upon a time, I designed an election method to fix the strategy problem with Range Voting. The strategy problem: You shouldn't cast a ballot with your honest ratings, you should