[EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-17 Thread Jeffrey O'Neill
Mike, The election closes on Sunday, and I will post a summary of results here using a few methods. It is interesting see what supporters of one method think about other methods.. The ballots are also available for people to do with as they like. For the election that you want to conduct, you

[EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-15 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Another Oops!. I've just realized that I posted my most recent message to the wrong thread. So now I'm posting it to the right thread: . Oops! I forgot that B voters ranked C. . Yes, C wins, even though C has a very low Plurality score. . But PC isn't intended to be Plurality. In fact, none of

Re: [EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-15 Thread Juho Laatu
On 15.10.2011, at 23.24, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: Another Oops!. I've just realized that I posted my most recent message to the wrong thread. So now I'm posting it to the right thread: . Oops! I forgot that B voters ranked C. . Yes, C wins, even though C has a very low Plurality score. .

Re: [EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-14 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: To the person conducting the poll: Are you going to count the rankings to determine a winner? By what method? As far as I understood, the intent is, besides gathering votes, to demonstrate the web-based polling system. The ballots are therefore available in the OpenSTV

Re: [EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-14 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Kristofer Munsterhjelm [km_el...@lavabit.com] writes: MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: To the person conducting the poll: Are you going to count the rankings to determine a winner? By what method? As far as I understood, the intent is, besides gathering votes, to demonstrate the web-based polling

[EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-14 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
but i thought they were reporting results in the near future. how are they reporting their results? will they be telling us who the STV winner is, the Schulze winner, the Ranked-pairs winner, the Borda winner, the Bucklin winner, the Coombs winner? . ... . what good is the site if it

[EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-14 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Hi Juho-- If that one example set of votes is bad enough for MMPO, then how about this example for PC(wv)? . 49 A 48 B C 03 C That example doesn't have a bad result at all. A has no pairwise defeat, and wins as Condorcet winner. I (nowadays at least) define PC by first saying: If

Re: [EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-14 Thread Jameson Quinn
C beats A 51-49. 2011/10/14 MIKE OSSIPOFF nkk...@hotmail.com Hi Juho-- If that one example set of votes is bad enough for MMPO, then how about this example for PC(wv)? . 49 A 48 B C 03 C That example doesn't have a bad result at all. A has no pairwise defeat, and wins as

[EM] Poll for favorite single winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-13 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
To the person conducting the poll: Are you going to count the rankings to determine a winner? By what method? I suggest that you look for a Condorcet winner, an alternative that isn't pairwise-beaten, in any of its pairwise comparisons. And announce it to this mailing list. Also, I hope

Re: [EM] Poll for favorite single-winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
for favorite single-winner voting system with OpaVote I consider it very bad to have to use a computer at all. Any system that requires a computer to be easy to use gets a zero vote from me. In this system I hope the items I left off the ballot were given a zero value? The range thing

Re: [EM] Poll for favorite single-winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-09 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:04 PM, matt welland wrote: So now I'm going to have to stare at a ballot with 20 items and 20! possible arrangements (is it really that many? its been a long time since stats class). All I can say is that it sucks and I'd prefer to stick with broken plurality rather than

Re: [EM] Poll for favorite single-winner voting system with OpaVote

2011-10-09 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
matt welland wrote: cue grumpy old man voice So I gave the opavote thing (nicely done site BTW) a try and had the same experience I do with every ranked vote system. Choice overload and decision freeze up. I literally hate ranking and I hope to insert deity of choice these things don't take