[EM] ranked pair method that resolves beath path ties.

2011-11-27 Thread Ross Hyman
When beat path produces a tie, this method can produce a single winner unless the tie is genuine.  It is the same method I presented earlier except for the addition of the Removing step, which resolves the ties. Candidates are classed in two categories: Winners and Losers.  Initially, all can

Re: [EM] ranked pair method that resolves beath path ties.

2011-11-27 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Ross Hyman, you wrote (27 Nov 2011): > A and B are both winners. A is in B's set and B is in A's set. > So A is deleted from B's set and B is deleted from A's set. > > A(W): A(W), C(L), D(L) > > B(W): B(W), C(L), D(L) > > C(L): A(W), B(W), C(L), D(L) > > D(L): A(W), B(W), C(L), D(L) > > > >

Re: [EM] ranked pair method that resolves beath path ties.

2011-11-28 Thread Ross Hyman
Markus is right. One way of retaining monotonicity, I think, is to replace the Sets with objects that record the number of times that a A has beaten B. Then for the pair ordering A>C, B>C C>D D>A, D>B, A>B Affirming A>C and B> C A(W):A(W) B(W):B(W) C(L):A(W),B(W),C(L) D(W):D(W) Affirming C>D

Re: [EM] ranked pair method that resolves beath path ties.

2011-11-28 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Ross Hyman, you wrote (28 Nov 2011): > One way of retaining monotonicity, I think, is to replace > the Sets with objects that record the number of times that > a A has beaten B. I guess that this tie-breaking strategy will violate independence of clones. Markus Schulze Election-Meth

Re: [EM] ranked pair method that resolves beath path ties.

2011-11-28 Thread Ross Hyman
How so? -- Dear Ross Hyman, you wrote (28 Nov 2011): > One way of retaining monotonicity, I think, is to replace > the Sets with objects that record the number of times that > a A has beaten B. I guess that this tie-breaking strategy will violate independence of clones. Markus Schulze

Re: [EM] ranked pair method that resolves beath path ties.

2011-11-28 Thread Markus Schulze
Hallo, in section 5 stage 3 of my paper, I explain how Tideman's ranked pairs method can be used (without having to sacrifice monotonicity, independence of clones, reversal symmetry, or any other important criterion) to resolve situations where the Schulze winner is not unique: http://m-schulze.

Re: [EM] ranked pair method that resolves beath path ties.

2011-11-28 Thread Ross Hyman
But is that the only monotonic clone independent method?  The method I describe elects D instead of A in accordance with D>A.  But I don't see why it would violate clone independence.  Consider the matrix in which the elements are the number of times the column candidate has defeated the row c

Re: [EM] ranked pair method that resolves beath path ties.

2011-11-28 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Ross Hyman, you wrote (28 Nov 2011): > One way of retaining monotonicity, I think, is to replace > the Sets with objects that record the number of times that > a A has beaten B. Suppose A-C-B is the strongest path from candidate A to candidate B. Suppose B-A is the strongest path from cand