Dear Abd ul-Rahman,
I am most concerned about majority *consent.* Jobst is ignoring the
fact that I'm suggesting majority *consent* for decisions;
What exactly is majority consent? In my understanding consent means
*all* voters share some opinion...
what do you call it when a minority
Seems there's something seriously broken with copy/paste on AIM mail.
From: Jobst Heitzig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Democratic decision systems avoid the necessity of fighting to prove
strength by assuming strength from numbers and making the necessary
accomodations.
In my opinion
At 04:18 AM 8/30/2007, Jobst Heitzig wrote:
Dear Abd ul-Rahman,
I am most concerned about majority *consent.* Jobst is ignoring the
fact that I'm suggesting majority *consent* for decisions;
What exactly is majority consent? In my understanding consent
means *all* voters share some opinion...
At 09:16 AM 8/25/2007, Jobst Heitzig wrote:
I don't think nearly half of the electorate should pay the other
half for getting what is the more just solution in my eyes. Perhaps
that is a difference in culture?
No. It's an understanding of what utilities mean. If A does not win,
the supporters
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Got lost?
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:32:55 -0400
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:28:24 -0300 Diego Renato wrote:
2007/8/22, Jobst Heitzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A common situation: 2 factions 1 good compromise.
The goal: Make sure
At 02:55 AM 8/22/2007, Jobst Heitzig wrote:
A common situation: 2 factions 1 good compromise.
The goal: Make sure the compromise wins.
The problem: One of the 2 factions has a majority.
A concrete example: true ratings are
55 voters: A 100, C 80, B 0
45 voters: B 100, C 80, A 0
THE
2007/8/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear Rob!
It is possible (otherwise I would not have posted this challenge :-)
But of course it is not possible with a majoritarian method (that's what
you observed).
Keep on, one of the possible solutions is really simple (though not very
2007/8/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I dislike any undeterministic method, except for tie-braking
And I dislike methods that give all power to only one half of the voters
and can be used to oppress 49% of the electorate :-)
In most societies, the majority dictatorship is not a
A common situation: 2 factions 1 good compromise.
The goal: Make sure the compromise wins.
The problem: One of the 2 factions has a majority.
A concrete example: true ratings are
55 voters: A 100, C 80, B 0
45 voters: B 100, C 80, A 0
THE CHALLENGE: FIND A METHOD THAT WILL ELECT THE
Jobst Heitzig wrote:
A common situation: 2 factions 1 good compromise.
The goal: Make sure the compromise wins.
The problem: One of the 2 factions has a majority.
A concrete example: true ratings are
55 voters: A 100, C 80, B 0
45 voters: B 100, C 80, A 0
THE CHALLENGE:
Jobst Heitzig wrote:
A common situation: 2 factions 1 good compromise.
The goal: Make sure the compromise wins.
The problem: One of the 2 factions has a majority.
A concrete example: true ratings are
55 voters: A 100, C 80, B 0
45 voters: B 100, C 80, A 0
THE CHALLENGE:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:28:24 -0300 Diego Renato wrote:
2007/8/22, Jobst Heitzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A common situation: 2 factions 1 good compromise.
The goal: Make sure the compromise wins.
The problem: One of the 2 factions has a majority.
A
(temporarily exiting lurk mode since this one grabbed my attention)
I don't think it's possible, assuming the voters know what other voters'
preferences are, and that they know that the other voters have the same
information and will also vote optimally.
The 55% in the first group will know that
At 11:38 AM 8/22/2007, Howard Swerdfeger wrote:
A concrete example: true ratings are
55 voters: A 100, C 80, B 0
45 voters: B 100, C 80, A 0
THE CHALLENGE: FIND A METHOD THAT WILL ELECT THE COMPROMISE (C)!
approval, would work if voters approval cutoff is below 80, as would
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