Re: [Election-Methods] RE : Re: Borda-elimination, a Condorcet method for public elections?

2007-12-22 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Kevin Venzke wrote: > Jonathan, > > --- Jonathan Lundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : >> On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:45 AM, James Gilmour wrote: >>> If you wish to utilise in some way all the information that could be >>> recorded on a preferential ballot, that is a comple

[Election-Methods] RE : Re: Borda-elimination, a Condorcet method for public elections?

2007-12-22 Thread Kevin Venzke
Jonathan, --- Jonathan Lundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:45 AM, James Gilmour wrote: > > If you wish to utilise in some way all the information that could be > > recorded on a preferential ballot, that is a completely > > different voting system from IRV, with differe

[Election-Methods] RE : Re: Borda-elimination, a Condorcet method for public elections?

2007-12-21 Thread Kevin Venzke
Ian, I think a big part of the reason that Condorcet methods aren't adopted is that from the perspective of a party in power, it's clear how such methods could undermine their ability to stay in power. IRV has some ability to disregard weak candidates, that's all; if a party in power is sometimes