Re: [Election-Methods] Why monotonicity? (was: Smith +mono-add-top?)

2008-01-11 Thread James Gilmour
daniel radetsky Sent: 11 January 2008 03:01 On Jan 10, 2008 2:05 AM, James Gilmour to put correct this defect we have no option but to sacrifice something else, e.g. later no harm. I'm not sure later-no-harm is a good thing in the first place. Ok, so that's your opinion. As I have

Re: [Election-Methods] Why monotonicity? (was: Smith + mono-add-top?)

2008-01-02 Thread Steve Eppley
--- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Steve Eppley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: 01.01.08 22:15:55 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [Election-Methods] Why monotonicity? (was: Smith + mono-add-top?) Diego Santos wrote: -snip- This method meets

Re: [Election-Methods] Why monotonicity? (was: Smith +mono-add-top?)

2008-01-02 Thread James Gilmour
Jobst had written: Also, it seems difficult to sell a method when you must admit that advancing an option X may actually reduce X's winning probability... Steve replied: That doesn't seem to be a problem for the Instant Runoff campaign. ;-) Do you recall an example where it was

Re: [Election-Methods] Why monotonicity? (was: Smith +mono-add-top?)

2008-01-02 Thread Juho
Good discussion. In general I think a strict criterion fulfillment based evaluation of the election methods is not sufficient. Monotonicity can be seen as a property that is always positive but that need not necessarily be always met. It is enough if in the given environment voters need

[Election-Methods] Why monotonicity? (was: Smith + mono-add-top?)

2008-01-01 Thread Steve Eppley
Diego Santos wrote: -snip- This method meets mono-add-top and -snip- Why care about monotonicity criteria, apart from the fact that many people have written about them? Aren't they just aesthetically pleasing consistency criteria, like the Reinforcement criterion

Re: [Election-Methods] Why monotonicity? (was: Smith + mono-add-top?)

2008-01-01 Thread Dave Ketchum
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Election-Methods] Why monotonicity? (was: Smith + mono-add-top?) Diego Santos wrote: -snip- This method meets mono-add-top and -snip- Why care about monotonicity criteria, apart from the fact that many people have written about them