[EM] Request for Information

2003-09-13 Thread Dgamble997
Simon Gazeley wrote: >Dear List Members >This is not a contribution to the current threads, but I thought someone >might be able to help. >Does anyone know how the New Zealand voters who used it reacted to STV? >In particular, were there any complaints about lack of transparency in >the computer

[EM] CRCLE Response to Donald

2003-09-13 Thread Dgamble997
Donald wrote in response to the example: > 49 A>B > 3B > 48 C>B >For B to win in this situation she/he must have a minimum utility of 0.92 to A>B >voters and a minimum utility of 0.96 to C>B voters. To win B has to be highly liked >(approved?) by everybody. >  49 A1.00 > B0.92 >  3 B1.00 >  48 C

[EM] Condorcet completed by limited-rank Condorcet!

2003-09-13 Thread Chris Benham
1.CR ballots, voters give each candidate a score out of 100 ( or any other round number that is much greater than the number of candidates.) 2. Inferring the rankings from the ratings, elect the CW is there is one. If not, then eliminate the non-members of the Smith set. 3.Those ballots which

[EM] Re: IRV-Approval hybrid

2003-09-13 Thread Chris Benham
Kevin, I have a couple of new ideas concerning "Approval Elimination Runoff". The first concerns how to deal with multiple majorities. I now think that if at any stage there are rival majorities, then there should a runoff between the biggest majority candidate and the most approved majority

Re: [EM] Call for Ideas on Automatic Approval Cutoff Finding

2003-09-13 Thread Forest Simmons
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, [iso-8859-1] Kevin Venzke wrote: > What your Max Power method does in the three-candidate, weak centrist > scenario is a perfect example of this: The low-utility centrist will be embraced > as soon as a major faction "learns" they can't win. > Thanks for this comment. I'm go

Re: [EM] Call for Ideas on Automatic Approval Cutoff Finding

2003-09-13 Thread Forest Simmons
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, [iso-8859-1] Kevin Venzke wrote: ... [skipping past many great insights to this proposal] ... > > When there are cycles, I think there's necessarily a game of chicken going > on among the voters. I think an approval measurement is the best way to > resolve the game, forcin

Re: [EM] Re: IRV vs. Plurality

2003-09-13 Thread Forest Simmons
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003, Joe Mason wrote: > On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 04:40:58PM -0700, Rob LeGrand wrote: > > I like it. My only worry is that the candidates themselves might be far > > less willing to compromise than the voters. In the California > > gubernatorial "race", Bill Simon pulled out to avo

Re: [EM] Approval Voting and Classical Mechanics

2003-09-13 Thread Forest Simmons
So this turns out to be a many body problem. Some methods (if not results) from statistical mechanics might apply here. Forest Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] Re: Improved Generalised Bucklin

2003-09-13 Thread Chris Benham
I would just like to point out that a method I posted on Fri.Aug. 22, which for the time being I shall dub "Improved Generalised Bucklin" ( the full "2-way" version), succeeds in many of the examples (given in the "Query for one and all" thread) of plain (Generalised) Bucklin failing

Re: [EM] to Donald (re David's message)

2003-09-13 Thread Kevin Venzke
Donald, --- Donald Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > David and EM list, > > David, you wrote: "Take the simplified example: > > 49 A>B > 3B > 48 C>B > > For B to win in this situation she/he must have a minimum utility of 0.92 to > A>B voters and a minimum utility of 0.96 to C>B voter

Re: [EM] Call for Ideas on Automatic Approval Cutoff Finding

2003-09-13 Thread Kevin Venzke
Forest, --- Forest Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Suppose you were given a set of voted CR ballots, perhaps with > supplemental information such as a tentative approval cutoff. What rule > would you use to adjust the approval cutoff by taking into account the > popularity of the variou

[EM] David's letter of September 3

2003-09-13 Thread Donald Davison
David and EM list, David, you wrote: "Take the simplified example: 49 A>B 3B 48 C>B For B to win in this situation she/he must have a minimum utility of 0.92 to A>B voters and a minimum utility of 0.96 to C>B voters. To win B has to be highly liked (approved?) by everybody." Donald here: If

Re: [EM] Re: IRV vs. Plurality

2003-09-13 Thread Joe Mason
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 04:40:58PM -0700, Rob LeGrand wrote: > I like it. My only worry is that the candidates themselves might be far > less willing to compromise than the voters. In the California > gubernatorial "race", Bill Simon pulled out to avoid drawing votes away > from Schwarzenegger, b