Re: [EM] CR/Approval method, RWE

2003-09-30 Thread Kevin Venzke
--- Forest Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Another compromise suited to ranked ballots would be to set the cutoff at > the median viable candidate (instead of Kevin's mean CR candidate) at each > stage. This is an interesting idea. I wonder if it would prove to be cloneproof? My prefer

[EM] re: CR/Approval and cutoffs

2003-09-30 Thread Kevin Venzke
Forest, --- Forest Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, [iso-8859-1] Kevin Venzke wrote: > > > > Also, it would be sensible for the (artificial) approval ballots to give a half > > vote to candidates who lie precisely on the average, since there's no justification > > eit

Re: [EM] Re: Woodall's DAC, Plurality

2003-09-30 Thread Kevin Venzke
Chris, --- Chris Benham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : >> So the criterion means that if X is mentioned on fewer ballots than Y received >> first-place votes, we can't pick X. It sounds like a good criterion to me, >> because it seems unlikely that, in this case, we could possibly have a good >>

Re: [EM] CR/Approval method, RWE

2003-09-30 Thread Forest Simmons
This version of Chris's could be called "runoff done right." It preserves the idea of not "lowering your vote" until lack of viability forces it upon you, but it has a better measure of viability than ordinary runoff, and it doesn't make "irrevocable decisions based on partial information" (a nice

Re: [EM] Donald's Reply to Robertas' Request for Opinion:

2003-09-30 Thread Anthony Duff
Just a reaction to one little thing that Donald said... --- Donald Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Robertas, ... > If an election is supposed to be a non-partisan election, then the Hare > quota should be used with STV. The Hare will not average the votes of the > candidates of any p

Re: [EM] another CR/Approval method

2003-09-30 Thread Forest Simmons
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, [iso-8859-1] Kevin Venzke wrote: > > Also, it would be sensible for the (artificial) approval ballots to give a half > vote to candidates who lie precisely on the average, since there's no justification > either way to approve or disapprove such candidates. If the average we

[EM] CR/Approval method, RWE

2003-09-30 Thread Chris Benham
I like Kevin 's "another CR/Approval method", and I think it would be good if the name contained a reference to the type of ballot used. Maybe something like "Venzke Ratings"? It has occurred to me that the method is similar in concept to "Runoff Without Elimination". This quickly led

[EM] Re: Woodall's "Descending Acquiescing Coalitions" method

2003-09-30 Thread Chris Benham
Kevin, You wrote: I'm not sure I've understood your idea, but I'm sure such ideas are worth exploring. The most intuitive change, it seems to me, would be to actually eliminate "eliminated" candidates (not just bar them from victory) and start the process over. Maybe you're saying that. (But

[EM] Reply to Robertas' Request for Opinion:

2003-09-30 Thread Donald Davison
Hi Robertas, Thank you for asking for our opinions. We like to give our opinions, even if we are not in unison. To begin with, your current system is much better than what we have here in America. We have very few PR elections. One step towards some improvement for you would be for you to all