Re: [EM] untraceable receipts

2003-11-14 Thread Rob Speer
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:29:55PM -0800, Ernest Prabhakar wrote: > >option of paying you $20 for your verifiable vote receipt. Or > >threatening you if you don't get a receipt and give it to them. > > Actually, there's a trivial way to avoid the problem of 'coerced > ballots', even with plaintex

[EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights?

2003-11-14 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
On Nov 14, 2003, at 1:55 PM, David GLAUDE wrote: I think that before any electronic system get introduced, you need to carefull set the goal and define what democratic election are. I actually think that this is an excellent point.We may disagree about how easy a technical solution is, but I

Re: [EM] untraceable receipts

2003-11-14 Thread David GLAUDE
Ernest Prabhakar wrote: There's also something to be said for not over-optimizing for the corner cases. At least in the vast majority of precincts in the U.S., active coercion is quite rare. We should design to avoid the most common problems, as long as there was some way to address the edge

Re: [EM] Re: Election-methods digest, Vol 1 #344 - 7 msgs

2003-11-14 Thread David GLAUDE
Ken Johnson wrote: Okay, I see your point. If means exist for verifying my particular vote then vote buying or coersion becomes possible. Obvious but clearly stated (better than all my attempt). Perhaps a reasonable alternative would be for the voting machine to generate printed ballots Paper a

Re: [EM] untraceable receipts

2003-11-14 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
On Nov 14, 2003, at 12:24 PM, Ken Johnson wrote: Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:43:18 -0500 From: Rob Speer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you have the option of verifying your ballot, then someone has the option of paying you $20 for your verifiable vote receipt. Or threatening you if you don't get

[EM] Re: Election-methods digest, Vol 1 #344 - 7 msgs

2003-11-14 Thread Ken Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:43:18 -0500 From: Rob Speer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EM] Re: touch screen voting machines Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... If you have the option of verifying your ballot, then someone has the option of