Re: [EM] Re: touch screen voting machines

2003-11-16 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:28:12 +0100 David GLAUDE wrote: Dave Ketchum wrote: I was around when Ada (the language) was born and, unless it has improved A LOT, better if it had died YOUNG. I would have more hope for Java or Linux. Ada did reborn in 93 when the X of ADA 9X became 3. Could be, f

Re: [EM] Re: touch screen voting machines

2003-11-16 Thread David GLAUDE
Dave Ketchum wrote: I was around when Ada (the language) was born and, unless it has improved A LOT, better if it had died YOUNG. I would have more hope for Java or Linux. Ada did reborn in 93 when the X of ADA 9X became 3. Ada is typicaly a language where type checking is very strong. It mean

Re: [EM] Re: touch screen voting machines

2003-11-16 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:23:07 +0100 David GLAUDE wrote: Ken Johnson wrote: To deal with this, in Belgium by law, if the printed vote is not what you like, you call the president of the voting burreau and you vote again in front of him. And sorry for the secrecy of your vote. He will click on "O

Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights?

2003-11-16 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:40:54 + Gervase Lam wrote: Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:24:57 -0500 From: Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: David GLAUDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights? Recording ONLY at the end was my assumption. Each record of votes is

Re: [EM] Re: touch screen voting machines

2003-11-16 Thread David GLAUDE
Ken Johnson wrote: To deal with this, in Belgium by law, if the printed vote is not what you like, you call the president of the voting burreau and you vote again in front of him. And sorry for the secrecy of your vote. He will click on "OK vote match" for you. ;-) Another possible approach -

Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights?

2003-11-16 Thread David GLAUDE
I think we should stop this talking about CD and DVD... I don't want to help you convince yourself that e-voting is the way to go. No technical trick will make Black Box Voting (even if some source code is open source) acceptable to any defender of democracy. I think a few step must be identifi

[EM] Re: touch screen voting machines

2003-11-16 Thread Ken Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We tested this known as "Ticketting" in Belgium and there is a theoretical Denial of Service attack on the election process. If a set of voter complain that the ticket (or the screen or both) does not display what they wanted to vote for. Since there is no way to kn

Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights?

2003-11-16 Thread Gervase Lam
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:24:57 -0500 > From: Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: David GLAUDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights? >      Recording ONLY at the end was my assumption. >      Each record of votes is required to contain votes in random order