[EM] New methods wrap-up

2004-01-06 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Yesterday I said that I hadn't checked out automatic candidate withdrawal with wv Condorcet. Now I've checked it out and it doesn't improve on wv. It just shifts the winner one position around the cycle, losing the special advantages of wv. So: Re-abandoning automatic candidate withdrawal. I ga

[EM] Election districts (was bicameral design poll)

2004-01-06 Thread matt
Corection, where I said "linear program" below it should say "mixed integer program" because the demographic information is integer. There is no good reason in our current computer era that I am aware of for not removing the politics from districting by using mathematical optimize to objectivel

RE: [EM] Election districts (was bicameral design poll)

2004-01-06 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2004-01-06, James Gilmour uttered: >And we here in the UK already know that virtual districts are not worth a >second thought, at least, not here. [...] Locality and community are very >important. I agree, but for a different reason. If we impose democratic rule on a group of people, we're ess

RE: [EM] Election districts (was bicameral design poll)

2004-01-06 Thread James Gilmour
> James wrote > > I respect your sincerity, but you are not living in the > real world of practical > > politics. Electors want real districts, not virtual districts. Matt wrote > Maybe, but if there is a solution to a real problem then we > cannot know if the solution will be adopted without

[EM] Re: Optional Later-no-harm AER

2004-01-06 Thread Forest Simmons
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Chris Benham wrote: > Forest, > I am interested in any comment you have on this method (that I posted > Sun.Dec.21, 2003). > I didn't steal one of your ideas, did I ? No, but I wish I could claim it ... especially your idea of minimal adjustment of approval cutoffs to keep

Re: [EM] Methods that elect all seats by the same faction:

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Kislanko
Donald wrote: >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >"Paul Kislanko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on the EM list: > >>A theoretical, though impractical way to handle this would be as follows: >> >>Have independent ballot-choices for place 1, place 2, etc. which each allow >

[EM] Methods that elect all seats by the same faction:

2004-01-06 Thread Donald Davison
Methods that elect all seats by the same faction: Greetings list members, Gamble wrote: [on the IRV list] "Hello Tom and list, Is this an example of the IRV at large method you were proposing? A and B -both candidates of the same faction are elected." David Gamble - - - - - - - - - -

[EM] Automatic Withdrawal of Losing Candidates

2004-01-06 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
When Tom Round first proposed the candidate withdrawal option for IRV, in '94 or '95, we all recognized that it really gets rid of IRV's defensive strategy problem. It also does gets rid of whatever negligible defensive strategy problem Condorcet wv has. How is that possible, considering the Gi

[EM] Unanimity test works with many candidates. How it works.

2004-01-06 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
The unanimity test, for detecthing order-reversal works at least as well with many candidates, as well as with 3 candidates. It merely requires a strictly-observed 1-dimensional political spectrum. Though we don't have _exactly_ that, it isn't an unreasonable approximation. Say it's A, B, & C