Re: [EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-18 Thread Warren Schudy
Here's my 36 ungrammatical words: IRV: Eliminate candidate that is prefered (excluding eliminated candidates) of fewest voters. Repeat. Approval: Vote for any number of candidates. Candidate receiving most votes wins. Condorcet (ignoring cycles): Simulate all runoffs using ranked ballots. El

Re: [EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-18 Thread Kislanko
In a message dated 8/18/2004 4:31:04 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Derive successive plurality eliminations from ranked ballots, eliminating one candidate each round. That's very good.   It doesn't say how candidates are eliminated, and it doesn't "describe" the

Re: [EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-18 Thread Adam Tarr
I'd be interested in a 12-word IRV explanation I don't think that's possible, either. Derive successive plurality eliminations from ranked ballots, eliminating one candidate each round. Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-18 Thread Kislanko
In a message dated 8/18/2004 2:17:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One should simplify as much as possible but no further. Still, here goes:Rank candidates and elect pairwise winner.Six words. :) Yes, but no explanation.   There are "Condorcet-based" methods tha

Re: [EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-18 Thread Dr . Ernie Prabhakar
On Aug 18, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Eric Gorr wrote: Anyone want to take a stab an giving an explanation of Condorcet Voting in 12 words or less...? I'm a sucker for terse phrasing: Rank all candidates. Pick one most preferred over each of the others. Twelve exactly! Of course, the whole notion is a li

Re: [EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-18 Thread Eric Gorr
ooo...I like it. Got rid of the extra word in Approval Voting as well... Vote for one or more candidates. Candidate with the most votes wins. At 12:06 PM -0700 8/18/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One should simplify as much as possible but no further. Still, here goes: Rank candidates and elect pai

Re: [EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One should simplify as much as possible but no further. Still, here goes: Rank candidates and elect pairwise winner. Six words. :) Mike Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Gorr wrote: Anyone want to take a stab an giving an explanation of Condorcet Voting in 12 words or less...? Had a conversation recen

[EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-18 Thread Eric Gorr
Anyone want to take a stab an giving an explanation of Condorcet Voting in 12 words or less...? Had a conversation recently with an IRV supporter who is supporting IRV over Condorcet and Approval Voting because IRV can be explained in 12 words or less (but has yet to provide that explanation) a

Re: [EM] IRV & Eliminations

2004-08-18 Thread Eric Gorr
Never mind...the answer is obvious. If enough clones are running in the same race, it is possible that they will all tie for least votes and all be eliminated even though one of them would have won should they have been eliminated one at a time. At 11:16 AM -0400 8/18/04, Eric Gorr wrote: I was

[EM] IRV & Eliminations

2004-08-18 Thread Eric Gorr
I was looking at the IRV page on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Instant-runoff_voting) and noticed in the tie-breaking rules that when one eliminates all of the candidates at once who are tied for least votes that IRV would then violate independence of clones. Can anyone