RE: [EM] RE: Definition of preferential voting

2004-08-20 Thread Paul Kislanko
Forest Simmons wrote: >>I have a slight quibble with the phrase "ranked ballots." If you take it literally, it sounds like it is referring to a set of ballots that have somehow already been ranked relative to each other, instead of a set of ballots that can be used by voters to rank the candidate

Re: [EM] RE: Definition of preferential voting

2004-08-20 Thread Forest Simmons
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Bryan Ford wrote: > Toplak Jurij wrote: > >Preferential voting; n. Example of a non-sequiter. > > Good point. "Preferential voting" sounds to me like the kind of opaque term > with as many syllables as possible that might have been invented by the > academic voting intelligen

RE: [EM] RE: Definition of preferential voting

2004-08-20 Thread Paul Kislanko
James Gilmour wrote: Paul Kislanko > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 12:52 AM > A "voting system" is a punched-card, a touch-sensitive CRT, > paper with circles that require a #2 pencil, or a gorgeous > 1950s-era big box with lots of levers to play with including > the big ones that would autom

RE: [EM] Re: What exactly is an "Election Method"?

2004-08-20 Thread Paul Kislanko
Bryan Ford in response to my post about splitting the analysis of methods into two pieces: >>You're quite right to point out that both IRV and Condorcet (and Approval and most other "alternative" methods) critically depend on changing the balloting scheme to something other than simply "choose o

Re: [EM] RE: Definition of preferential voting

2004-08-20 Thread Brian Olson
On Aug 19, 2004, at 4:52 PM, Paul Kislanko wrote: A “voting system” is a punched-card, a touch-sensitive CRT, paper with circles that require a #2 pencil, or a gorgeous 1950s-era big box with lots of levers to play with including the big ones that would automatically turn all the little ones for

RE: [EM] RE: Definition of preferential voting

2004-08-20 Thread James Gilmour
Paul Kislanko > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 12:52 AM > A “voting system” is a punched-card, a touch-sensitive CRT, > paper with circles that require a #2 pencil, or a gorgeous > 1950s-era big box with lots of levers to play with including > the big ones that would automatically turn all the

[EM] Condorcet in 12 words or less

2004-08-20 Thread James Green-Armytage
Condorcet in 12 words: Ranked ballots. Simulate full round-robin tournament. Unbeaten candidate or weakest-beaten. IRV in 12 words: Ranked ballots. Eliminate candidate with fewest top choice votes until one remains. Weighted pairwise in 12 words: Rated ballots. Unbeaten in pairwise, or beaten wi

[EM] RE: Definition of preferential voting

2004-08-20 Thread Bryan Ford
Toplak Jurij wrote: >Preferential voting; n. Example of a non-sequiter. Good point. "Preferential voting" sounds to me like the kind of opaque term with as many syllables as possible that might have been invented by the academic voting intelligentsia precisely for the purpose of keeping ordinar

[EM] Re: What exactly is an "Election Method"?

2004-08-20 Thread Bryan Ford
On Friday 20 August 2004 01:00, Paul Kislanko wrote: > Election Method: > > n. A combination of a procedure for collecting voter preferences and an > algorithm for counting votes. > > >From a purely analytical standpoint, these can be dealt with separately > > and > > I believe it is much easier t