[EM] Re: group strategy equilibria

2004-08-24 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Hi folks! Just to repeat myself: We must consider NON-DETERMINISTIC methods like ROACC (see my post on the recommendations thread) since they are THE ONLY methods which ensure at least weak group strategy equilibria (weak GSE, i.e. a situation in which there is a counter-threat to every

Re: [EM] ironclad pro-Condorcet argument?

2004-08-24 Thread Adam Tarr
Steve Eppley wrote: Dave K wrote: AND, they express dislike for Condorcet by their example voting procedure for preferential voting - the procedure shared by IRV and Condorcet. I doubt their omission of Condorcet was an expression of dislike for Condorcet. Remember, that section was written

Re: [EM] ironclad pro-Condorcet argument?

2004-08-24 Thread Steve Eppley
Adam T wrote: Steve Eppley wrote: -snip- Right, we're defining Condorcet as a family of voting procedures that accept preference orders from the voters and elect the Condorcet winner, if there is one, given those votes. So... really, this is Condorcet. Condorcet just means a voting

[EM] Using weights to compensate multiple votes (Any feedback ? please !??)

2004-08-24 Thread Philippe Errembault
Isn't there really anyone interrested in this topic ? Or amIjust much too confusing in my explanations ??? I'd like to get feedback on this topic, please... It's about normalising the enthropy (amount of information) contained in of an "approval like" vote. Philippe Errembault -

Re: [EM] Using weights to compensate multiple votes (Any feedback ? please !??)

2004-08-24 Thread Warren Schudy
As I understand it, your scheme, unlike regular approval, fails the Favorite Betrayal Criterion (FBC). Suppose there is a close race between two major candidates, call them Bush and Kerry. Suppose a voter has a favorite that is neither Bush nor Kerry. In regular approval, a rational voter will

Re: [EM] Re: group strategy equilibria: no sincere CW

2004-08-24 Thread Anthony Duff
Jobst wrote in part... ... as there is no sincere CW (which is quite probable as we know!). This is because whatever candidate A gets elected, there is always a majority prefering some B who can elect B by voting B all others without there being any counter-strategy to this threat. I am

Re: [EM] Re: group strategy equilibria: no sincere CW

2004-08-24 Thread Warren Schudy
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, [iso-8859-1] Anthony Duff wrote: I am interested in the question of the frequency of non-existance of a sincere CW. I personally do not know that it is probable. Here are two scenarios where the classic 3-voter 3-candidate Condorcet cycle arises naturally. They are both