Dear Eric,
you wrote (12 Nov 2004):
I would suggest the one proposed by Dr. Tideman which I believe can
be found here:
http://condorcet.org/emr/criteria.shtml
I don't see that Blake Cretney uses the resolute model.
Well, use the one that Dr. Tideman proposes.
I would assume that it would fall in
Interesting approach, Brian. I like the "brand" name VRR, it's kind of
neat if you want to go with the whole acronym thing.
Have you tried this out on anyone yet? What was their response?
What I've been doing lately to explain the pairwise method is to have
people rank 5 mo
Dear Eric,
you wrote (12 Nov 2004):
> I would suggest the one proposed by Dr. Tideman which I believe can
> be found here:
>
> http://condorcet.org/emr/criteria.shtml
I don't see that Blake Cretney uses the resolute model. The resolute model
says that for every possible set of ballots a candidat
At 12:25 AM +0100 11/13/04, Markus Schulze wrote:
Dear Eric Gorr,
you wrote (13 Nov 2004):
I am not talking about the IIA variant that you prefer, but Dr.
Arrow's variant (which does not involve probabilities - unless
I am mistaken), so my question to you stands.
So when you want to use the reso
Dear Eric Gorr,
you wrote (13 Nov 2004):
> I am not talking about the IIA variant that you prefer, but Dr.
> Arrow's variant (which does not involve probabilities - unless
> I am mistaken), so my question to you stands.
So when you want to use the resolute model for IIA, then of course
you also h
Hallo,
So would passing the strong version of IIA (and by strong version, I
assume we are speaking about the one Dr. Arrow used) imply passing
ICC?
As I said: Random Candidate, David Catchpole's Random Candidate, and
Random Pairs satisfy IIA and violate ICC.
I am not talking about the IIA varian
Hallo,
> So would passing the strong version of IIA (and by strong version, I
> assume we are speaking about the one Dr. Arrow used) imply passing
> ICC?
As I said: Random Candidate, David Catchpole's Random Candidate, and
Random Pairs satisfy IIA and violate ICC.
Markus Schulze
Election-
At 1:47 PM -0500 11/12/04, Dave Ketchum wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:06:23 -0500 Eric Gorr wrote:
At 7:44 AM -0800 11/12/04, Justin Sampson wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Eric Gorr wrote:
> Well, it will cause IRV to fail the Independence of Clones Criterion and
thereby be subject to a spoiler effe
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:06:23 -0500 Eric Gorr wrote:
At 7:44 AM -0800 11/12/04, Justin Sampson wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Eric Gorr wrote:
> Well, it will cause IRV to fail the Independence of Clones
Criterion and
thereby be subject to a spoiler effect again.
Doesn't IRV suffer from spoiler ef
At 7:44 AM -0800 11/12/04, Justin Sampson wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Eric Gorr wrote:
> Well, it will cause IRV to fail the Independence of Clones Criterion and
thereby be subject to a spoiler effect again.
Doesn't IRV suffer from spoiler effects anyway?
Depends.
The method itself passes the ICC
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:12:36 -0800 (PST) Justin Sampson wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Brian Olson wrote:
Between this story and all of the snafu going on with the DRE voting
machines, my appraisal of the quality of software engineering in this
country is going down. Even Microsoft could do better.
A
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Eric Gorr wrote:
> At 10:11 AM -0500 11/12/04, Warren Schudy wrote:
>
> > 1) Did the ballot only allow each voter to give the top three choices?
> > I suspect that restriction would significantly decrease the
> > effectiveness of IRV.
Yes, three choices. The City Charter sa
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:11:03 -0500 (EST) Warren Schudy wrote:
Subject: Re: [EM] IRV in San Francisco
1) Did the ballot only allow each voter to give the top three choices? I
suspect that restriction would significantly decrease the effectiveness of
IRV.
Agreed a decrease, but I question its bei
At 10:11 AM -0500 11/12/04, Warren Schudy wrote:
1) Did the ballot only allow each voter to give the top three choices? I
suspect that restriction would significantly decrease the effectiveness of
IRV.
Well, it will cause IRV to fail the Independence of Clones Criterion
and thereby be subject to a
Hallo,
I'm responsible for the edits to that page that make that claim, but
if it's wrong please do fix it. Markus S - I'm very surprised that
IIA does not imply ICC, could you give an example? I mean the strong
version of IIA.
I prefer the following definition for IIA
So would passing the st
1) Did the ballot only allow each voter to give the top three choices? I
suspect that restriction would significantly decrease the effectiveness of
IRV.
2) I suspect the root cause of the crappy election software used is
gullible non-technical election clerks making purchasing decisions. As a
s
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