[EM] Re: questions about sprucing up

2004-12-23 Thread Forest Simmons
From: Kevin Venzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EM] Re: sprucing up Forest, I certainly think this is an impressive, interesting idea, even if I don't have a lot of comments on it. But: --- Forest Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : In particular, Spruced Up River, Spruced Up Ranked Pairs,

[EM] re: diagrams

2004-12-23 Thread Dan Keshet
For what it's worth, I drew up a pretty simplistic diagram to make demonstrations of how a cycle can happen in election results: http://www.channel1.com/users/dkesh/green/voting/condorcetparadox.png (available in SVG format as well) It's a simple triangle with a bunch of dots around it. A

[EM] Woops!

2004-12-23 Thread Forest Simmons
Kevin wrote Sprucing up Bucklin and IRV seem particularly interesting. But I doubt it is able to do anything helpful with the 49 A, 24 B, 27 CB scenario. I (mis)read 49 A, 24 BC, 27 CB In Kevin's example B beats A beats C beats B, so there is no covered candidate to eliminate nor any beat clone

[EM] One more correction

2004-12-23 Thread Forest Simmons
The last paragraph of my previous message should have said Remember the symmetric completion and reverse cancellation are not part of the sprucing up process; they are only an assumption making possible two dimensional geometrical analysis of spruced up methods that already happen to satisfy

Re: [EM] re: diagrams

2004-12-23 Thread Bart Ingles
Interesting, the diagram can be viewed as either a two-dimensional diagram or 3-D object (in which the triangle is an intersection of a plane with three Cartesian axes). The diagram works either way, but taken as 3-D, it shows that cycles are a natural and predictable outcome when there are