Re: [EM] supermajority

2004-12-27 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear James Green-Armytage, please read: 1) chapter Super-Majorities of http://www.condorcet.org/rp/details.shtml 2) appendix 5 of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/files/schulze1.zip Markus Schulze Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list

[EM] Re: 49 A, 24 B, 27 CB example

2004-12-27 Thread Forest Simmons
I'm sure that Kevin has given more thought to this example than I have, but it just occured to me that C cannot win under approval no matter where the third faction members place their approval cutoffs, whether above, below, or equal to B. Since C can never win (under approval) the best

[EM] non-deterministic methods

2004-12-27 Thread Forest Simmons
As Jobst recently pointed out, non-deterministic methods have not been adequately studied or promoted, considereing their potential contribution to fairness and to strategy free voting. Consider, for example the following cycle of three: 34 ABC 33 BCA 33 CAB Though most methods would give

RE: [EM] non-deterministic methods

2004-12-27 Thread Paul Kislanko
Forest Simmons wrote: As Jobst recently pointed out, non-deterministic methods have not been adequately studied or promoted, considereing their potential contribution to fairness and to strategy free voting. Consider, for example the following cycle of three: 34 ABC 33 BCA

Re: [EM] non-deterministic methods

2004-12-27 Thread Bart Ingles
Forest Simmons wrote: What if we tossed two coins, and gave the win to B if they both came up heads, to C if they both came up tails, and to A otherwise. Wouldn't a random cycle-breaker provide strong incentive for a sure loser in a cycle-free election to try to create a cycle? Bart

Re: [EM] supermajority

2004-12-27 Thread James Green-Armytage
This is James Green-Armytage replying to Markus Schulze. Dear James Green-Armytage, please read: 1) chapter Super-Majorities of http://www.condorcet.org/rp/details.shtml 2) appendix 5 of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/files/schulze1.zip Markus Schulze Dear Markus,