[EM] Secondary list moderator

2005-01-05 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi folks, With the Mailman software we're using for this mailing list, it's a fairly easy exercise for me to go though the queue of email that gets sent to the list from non-list members. The bad news is that I'm still falling down on the job. I let 156 messages stack up from the beginning of

[EM] Re: Suter on Election-methods Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13

2005-01-05 Thread Warren D. Smith
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [EM] Is range voting the panacea we need? > To: election-methods-electorama.com@electorama.com > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Will someone on the list who has studied range voting and compared it to > Condo

[EM] Re: lotteries

2005-01-05 Thread Forest Simmons
First I have a typo correction in my example (inspired by Bart) showing that ordinal ballot methods satisfying neutrality and the Condorcet Criterion are manipulable, even when non-deterministic. I gave the last faction as z C>B>A, when I meant z C>A>B. The entire corrected tableaux is x

Re: [EM] There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among all lotteries of candidates :

2005-01-05 Thread James Green-Armytage
Dear Jobst, Yes, it does sound like an intriguing idea, although non-deterministic methods have never been an area of expertise for me. In its present state, the proposal is still a little bit too abstract for me to grasp; as usual, it's easier for me to understand a tally metho

[EM] Re: lotteries

2005-01-05 Thread Ted Stern
On 5 Jan 2005 at 15:15 PST, Forest Simmons wrote: > snip > > Ted Stern gets the credit for finding an efficient sprucing up procedure > by finding an existing clone collapsing algorithm in the literature. another snip > > Here is Lottery in the form of Spruced Up Random Ballot: >

[EM] Re: lotteries

2005-01-05 Thread Forest Simmons
This looks like another way of doing Spruced Up Random Candidate. In particular, properties 7 and 8 below correspond to the first two steps of the "Spruce Up" process. Because of this, Spruced Up Lottery has to be equivalent to Lottery. And then properties 5 and 6 finish the characterization o

[EM] Voter instructions for Approval & Range Voting

2005-01-05 Thread RLSuter
Before the effects of "strategic" vs. "sincere" voting in elections using Approval Voting (AV) or Range Voting (RV) can be adequately assessed, there needs to be more clarity about what the best strategies really are or how they can be arrived at by voters wanting to maximize the impact of their vo

[EM] why is covered vs. uncovered important?

2005-01-05 Thread Ted Stern
Forest Simmons ("sprucing up") and Jobst Heitzig (Short Ranked Pairs), among others, have posted Condorcet completion methods that involve searching for a winner from among the uncovered set of candidates. What are the special properties of the uncovered set? Are they worth shooting for, even if

[EM] There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among all lotteries of candidates :-)

2005-01-05 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear folks! Reading again Laslier's book, I stumbled upon a method which proves to be very promising after close inspection. It is based on the simple fact that when comparing lotteries of candidates instead of the candidates alone, there is always a "Condorcet Winner" among the lotteries! Acco

[EM] James: Your Range-Voting comments

2005-01-05 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
James-- You wrote: Range voting is neither a majority rule method... I reply: That depends on what you mean by a majority-rule method. You define it below as a Smith-Criterion method, but you mustn't expect others to share that definition. Range-Voting, which I call CR, meets WDSC, which says: I

[EM] When sincere Approval is optimal

2005-01-05 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
By the way, when I said that my definition of sincerity for criteria doesn't mention ratings, I _didn't_ mean that it doesn't apply to CR. It applies to all methods, as do my criteria. But it refers to voting pairwise preferences, by voting one candidate over another, which, by the definition o