[EM] Re: twisted prism, etc.

2005-01-06 Thread Forest Simmons
From: "Jobst Heitzig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [EM] Sprucing up vs. Condorcet Lottery vs. immunity: The "twisted prism" example Jobst wrote: Dear Forest! Your sprucing up technique is a very nice idea since it can simplify the tallying of those methods which fulfil beat-clone-proofnes

[EM] Re: There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among all lotteries of candidates :-)

2005-01-06 Thread Ted Stern
On 6 Jan 2005 at 15:08 PST, Markus Schulze wrote: > Dear Ted, > > Jobst Heitzig wrote (5 Jan 2005): >> Although this means that it may in bad cases be complicated >> to find p, it is always easy to prove that the result is >> correct once it is found by just showing that it beats each >> of the n p

[EM] Re: There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among all lotteriesof candidates :-)

2005-01-06 Thread Ted Stern
On 6 Jan 2005 at 15:15 PST, Paul Kislanko wrote: >> On 6 Jan 2005 at 14:31 PST, Markus Schulze wrote: >> > Well, with the Dijkstra algorithm you can calculate >> > in O(n^2) time the strengths of the strongest paths from >> > candidate A to every other candidate and from every other >> > candi

RE: [EM] Re: There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among all lotteriesof candidates :-)

2005-01-06 Thread Paul Kislanko
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ] On Behalf Of Ted Stern > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [EM] Re: There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among > all lotteriesof candidates :-) > > On 6 Jan 2005 at

Re: [EM] There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among all lotteries of candidates :-)

2005-01-06 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Ted, Jobst Heitzig wrote (5 Jan 2005): > Although this means that it may in bad cases be complicated > to find p, it is always easy to prove that the result is > correct once it is found by just showing that it beats each > of the n pure strategies. This can be done in O(n^2) time > just as i

[EM] Re: There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among all lotteries of candidates :-)

2005-01-06 Thread Ted Stern
On 6 Jan 2005 at 14:31 PST, Markus Schulze wrote: > Dear Jobst, > > you wrote (5 Jan 2005): >> By the way, is it possible to prove a Beatpath winner >> in O(n^2) time also? > > Well, with the Dijkstra algorithm you can calculate > in O(n^2) time the strengths of the strongest paths from > candidate

Re: [EM] There is always a Condorcet Winner! (among all lotteries of candidates :-)

2005-01-06 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Jobst, you wrote (5 Jan 2005): > By the way, is it possible to prove a Beatpath winner > in O(n^2) time also? Well, with the Dijkstra algorithm you can calculate in O(n^2) time the strengths of the strongest paths from candidate A to every other candidate and from every other candidate to ca

[EM] Re: Sprucing up vs. Condorcet Lottery vs. immunity: The "twisted prism" example

2005-01-06 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Sorry, the diagram didn't come out right, so here it is again: A1 10/| \ clockwise cycle / | \ A3--A2 | | | upward beats |9 | | (diagonal downward beats omitted) | B1 | | / \ | counter-clockwise cycle | /10 \| B3--B2 __

[EM] Sprucing up vs. Condorcet Lottery vs. immunity: The "twisted prism" example

2005-01-06 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Forest! Your sprucing up technique is a very nice idea since it can simplify the tallying of those methods which fulfil beat-clone-proofness and uncoveredness. However, some of which you wrote has confused me completely: Did I understand you right in that you claim that the technique shou