[EM] Re: Juho: strategy

2005-04-25 Thread Juho Laatu
Hello James, See embedded comments below. Best Regards, Juho On Apr 17, 2005, at 13:19, James Green-Armytage wrote: Hi Juho. Here is a reply to your April 4 post, where you suggested that large scale strategic manipulation in Condorcet methods will be unlikely. I like your professional wrestler

Re: [EM] Sincere methods

2005-04-25 Thread Juho Laatu
On Apr 17, 2005, at 21:58, Kevin Venzke wrote: plurality That doesn't work unless you count the total number of people "who think that the winner is not the first choice of the most voters." Otherwise you have everyone revolting who doesn't get their first choice. Yes. I'm just trying to demonstr

Re: [EM] A question in classroom creation

2005-04-25 Thread Juho Laatu
Hello Michael, This is maybe not what you were looking for, but self-organizing maps (or other corresponding approximating methods) could be useful (and computationally feasible) in this kind of classroom problems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organizing_map http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~r

[EM] Re: Mike: Misunderstanding

2005-04-25 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
James-- You say: You've misunderstood me. I'm not saying that margins and winning votes will ever produce worse results than IRV with respect to expressed preferences. What I'm worried about is the possibility of their producing worse results than IRV with respect to sincere preferences.

[EM] Re: "Be careful what you wish for"

2005-04-25 Thread Araucaria Araucana
On 22 Apr 2005 at 19:46 UTC-0700, Russ Paielli wrote: Araucaria Araucana araucaria.araucana-at-gmail.com |EMlist| wrote: >> Well, that has a kernel of truth to it -- candidates are going to >> try to game the system, whatever it is. So whatever method you set >> up, it needs to have a certain unpr

[EM] Re: auto-truncation

2005-04-25 Thread Araucaria Araucana
On 22 Apr 2005 at 18:42 UTC-0700, Russ Paielli wrote: Araucaria Araucana araucaria.araucana-at-gmail.com |EMlist| wrote: > >> Consider this case. Original true preferences: >> 27: A>B >> 24: B>A 49: C >> A is the Condorcet winner. Now consider what happens if B defects >> via >> truncation: