Re: [EM] a democratic approach to intractable optimizations

2005-08-20 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Sat, 2005-08-20 at 09:31 -0700, Simmons, Forest wrote: > In a recent message, partly quoted below, Adam Tarr outlined an NP hard > optimization approach to redistricting. He suggested that a genetic > optimization algorithm might be used for practical purposes. > > I bele

[EM] RE: simplifying ballots

2005-08-20 Thread Simmons, Forest
In his response under this subject heading Mr. Lomax seemd to think that I was advocating Cumulative Voting, then he offered what amounted to a plausibility argument for my assertion that Cumulative Voting is strategically equivalent to Plurality. I'm slightly miffed that he would imply that I

[EM] RE: simplifying ballots

2005-08-20 Thread Simmons, Forest
Mr. Lomax wrote: "Asset Voting, per se, was invented by Warren Smith, though it strongly resembles delegable proxy (which seems to have been invented independently by a number of people, I know I did not get it from anyone else). " I reply: It's true that the name "Asset Voting" was invented b

[EM] a democratic approach to intractable optimizations

2005-08-20 Thread Simmons, Forest
In a recent message, partly quoted below, Adam Tarr outlined an NP hard optimization approach to redistricting. He suggested that a genetic optimization algorithm might be used for practical purposes. It has been suggested before that in such cases anybody with a proposal found by any means (

Re: [EM] range ballots chew up slots; "unsupported" range voting claims

2005-08-20 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:13:54 -0400 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote, in part: At 09:05 PM 8/18/2005, Warren Smith wrote: As was recently pointed out, it is correct that with range ballots run on ordinary plurality voting machines, slots (e.g. "levers" on NY-style machines) get "chewed up" 10 times fa

Re: [EM] Re: IRV vs Range on totalizing machines

2005-08-20 Thread RLSuter
There seem to be quite a few activist Richie's and Ritchie's around. Another I know of is Mark Ritchie, president of the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (www.iatp.org). -Ralph In a message dated 8/20/05 3:29:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << On 8/19/05, [EMAIL

[EM] RE: A class of ballot set with "unbeaten in mean lotteries."

2005-08-20 Thread Simmons, Forest
Title: Re: A class of ballot set with "unbeaten in mean lotteries." Jobst and All:   I did make one (inconsequential) boo boo.  The normalization factor for the weights x+y-z, y+z-x, and z+x-y should be 1/N, not 1/(2N), since the sum of these weights is x+y+z=N.   To physically carry out t

[EM] Re: A class of ballot set with "unbeaten in mean lotteries."

2005-08-20 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Forest! You wrote: > Let x, y, and z be positive integers such that x+y+z=N, and max(x,y,z) where N is the number of some large population of voters, and the ordinal > preferences are divided into three factions: x: A>B>C y: B>C>A z: C>A>B > Further assume that the cardinal ratings

Re: [EM] Re: IRV vs Range on totalizing machines

2005-08-20 Thread Jan Kok
On 8/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just for clarification, the Executive director of the Center for > Voting and Democracy is Rob Richie, not Scott Ritchie. Note > that the last names are spelled differently. For CVD contact > information and names other other staff people,