Re: [EM] IRV in San Francisco

2004-11-15 Thread Justin Sampson
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Eric Gorr wrote: > The only tie-breaker that I can think of in common usage (it gets > written in to proposed laws) which would cause the implementation of IRV > to fail ICC would be what I have called "deterministic"...where all > candidates tied for least votes are eliminate

Re: [EM] IRV in San Francisco

2004-11-12 Thread Justin Sampson
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Eric Gorr wrote: > At 10:11 AM -0500 11/12/04, Warren Schudy wrote: > > > 1) Did the ballot only allow each voter to give the top three choices? > > I suspect that restriction would significantly decrease the > > effectiveness of IRV. Yes, three choices. The City Charter sa

Re: [EM] San Francisco pairwise tallies

2004-11-11 Thread Justin Sampson
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Bart Ingles wrote: > I'm surprised the complete ballots were available in a form that would > allow pairwise tallies. Yeah, that was pretty cool. I don't know whose idea it was, but the Center for Voting and Democracy has been closely involved in the whole process. (They wro

Re: [EM] IRV in San Francisco

2004-11-11 Thread Justin Sampson
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Brian Olson wrote: > Between this story and all of the snafu going on with the DRE voting > machines, my appraisal of the quality of software engineering in this > country is going down. Even Microsoft could do better. As a software engineer I'm certainly apalled but not real

[EM] San Francisco pairwise tallies

2004-11-11 Thread Justin Sampson
lts.html I'm a bit mystified by the problems they ran into trying to do the instant run-off, since a full pairwise tally only took a few seconds on my old laptop. Of course the software and hardware designs are proprietary so we can't review them to understand what happened and how