[EM] Plurality-order principle

2005-01-12 Thread Tom Ruen
on where the original top-two and final top-two differ that it will sour people towards IRV and ALL election reforms. As I've long said "Plurality is the enemy". It is "default" when people can't agree on anything else. I like to visualize a "progression"

[EM] Inclusion Voting - true approval

2004-06-27 Thread Tom Ruen
r to debate candidates with a much lower popularity - afterall they've little to win, and much to lose in such publicity. Still, I don't think I'd mind if the first debate (5% approval) had 10 candidates and Kerry and Bush didn't show until later debates, and then we voters could judge the competition and hear issues the top-two refuse to discuss.   Tom Ruen  

[EM] equal rankings IRV

2004-06-15 Thread Tom Ruen
d as a harmless option, even if a majority may still reject it as unnecessary.   I can't offer any serious interest in "approval count" methods for politics. I judge them "mostly harmless" for affecting winners, and don't expect there ever to be a political majorit

[EM] Single Winner Systems categorization

2004-06-11 Thread Tom Ruen
ot;Ratings" since it has no article written about it, but put it in a "Multiple round" category based on a one-line description. Comments or suggestions are welcome. Sincerely, Tom Ruen P.S. I added a quick listing for those (nonparty vote) at the end under (B), but I'm le

Re: [EM] Plurality is not a "yes/no voting system"

2004-06-08 Thread Tom Ruen
Adam, YES, I believe ideally for any type of voting should allow the possibility for detecting spoiled ballots at the time of voting (rather than at the time of counting), and then the voter can have a chance to revote correctly. Counting equipment available at each voting location can perform th

[EM] Single winner elections - Ballot types

2004-06-08 Thread Tom Ruen
ballot. However giving voters the chance to offer illogical preferences allows an extra "consistency check" to prevent voters from misranking because they were voting too quickly.   Tom Ruen  

Re: [EM] Plurality is not a "yes/no voting system"

2004-06-08 Thread Tom Ruen
ce accidental misvotes. I like the option of tied votes in many systems, but I don't think it is essential. A system that can catch bad votes and allow voters to vote again is superior to adding special counting rules for tied rankings/votes. Tom Ruen P.S. I inserted limited comments below...

Re: [EM] Wikipedia

2004-06-05 Thread Tom Ruen
asonably with "Ratings"? (I say no) 3. Do "Ties permitted" really deserve to be a subcategory? (I think a "counting type", distinguishing between single counts "Plurality, approcal, Borda" and multiple counts is more useful.) Tom Ruen *** http://en.

[EM] Wikipedia

2004-06-05 Thread Tom Ruen
  That might be more acceptable to members on this list. I added a third level: Multiple counts whether there is forced elimination involved. (You might argue single count methods have forced elimination also, but it is irrelevant since there's no recount after the elimination.)   I'd sti

[EM] How many candidates are treated fairly?

2004-04-29 Thread Tom Ruen
ion (Voting with one set of ranked ballots) or two rounds of voting. When there are many candidates and less informed voters, it can be distracting to have to do everything in one round. If voters are willing I'd prefer allowing two rounds of actual voting to make sure all preferences offered are well considered.   Thanks for listening. I apologize for being too long-winded. :)   Sincerely, Tom Ruen  

[EM] The "Fresh Egg" winner - beyond Condorcet's pairs

2003-07-05 Thread Tom Ruen
there is still disagreement in the hardest cases. I am merely continuing his story and seeing what Condorcet chose to ignore.   If I have a point, it is to suggest that Condorcet may be more negligent than supporters wish to admit, and even if everyone agrees that Condorcet picks a best winner, I'd like recognition when a pairwise winner is picked without core support of plurality counts.   Thanks for listening.   Sincerely, Tom Ruen  

[EM] The "Fresh Egg" winner - beyond Condorcet's pairs

2003-07-05 Thread Tom Ruen
gives a tie between B and C with one loss each. I somewhat like it that my count can't choose between them since each have some virtue for different voters, although a true method would need to be willing to be more decisive. (Perhaps looking at loss-margins from each subset? I'll leav