Re: [EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-09-02 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:19:12 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Ketchum wrote in part: >In public elections we need to have the voters understanding the method >well enough to vote intelligently, and to be able to accept declared >winners as appropriate to the vote count totals (which I claim s

Re: [EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-08-31 Thread Dgamble997
Dave Ketchum wrote in part: >In public elections we need to have the voters understanding the method >well enough to vote intelligently, and to be able to accept declared >winners as appropriate to the vote count totals (which I claim should be >public knowledge shortly after the polls close). Not

Re: [EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-08-30 Thread Dave Ketchum
There seem to be two possible audiences: Those into theory, for which this may have been worth presenting, but has likely worn out its welcome as something worth studying and debating. Those, such as myself, into public elections. This was an interesting thought, but my interest expire

Re: [EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-08-30 Thread Dgamble997
Rob Speer wrote: >Didn't we hear this same debate, oh, a week ago? And the week before >that? It seems like every thread on this list eventually turns into >"Weak centrist!" "Condorcet winner!" "Weak centrist!" "Condorcet winner!" >Unless someone's providing some new information (like, say, the r

Re: [EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-08-29 Thread Rob Speer
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 05:43:25PM -0400, Eric Gorr wrote: > >I have to disagree strongly with that last sentence. Utility is > >important. A low utility 'least bad' centrist turkey is not the same > >as a genuinely preferred compromise. > > Considering both groups would prefer to have B over th

Re: [EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-08-29 Thread Eric Gorr
At 5:19 PM -0400 8/29/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Gorr wrote in part: 45 A>B>C 6 B>A>C 5 B>C>A 44 C>B>A (snip) The entire population would rather have B then the apparently primary opposition. So, B should win. Actually neither myself nor those who disagree with me can be certain as to whe

Re: [EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-08-29 Thread Dgamble997
Eric Gorr wrote in part: >>45 A>B>C >>6 B>A>C >>5 B>C>A >>44 C>B>A (snip) >The entire population would rather have B then the apparently primary >opposition. >So, B should win. >>Actually neither myself nor those who disagree with me can be >>certain as to whether B is really a low util

Re: [EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-08-29 Thread Eric Gorr
At 7:34 PM -0400 8/28/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My favourite type of example to post on this list is the following: 45 A>B>C 6 B>A>C 5 B>C>A 44 C>B>A I argue that B shouldn't win because he/she is very likely to be a low utility compromise- the least worst. Many people on this list disagree w

[EM] Cardinal Rating Condorcet Loser Elimination

2003-08-28 Thread Dgamble997
Hello everybody My favourite type of example to post on this list is the following: 45 A>B>C 6 B>A>C 5 B>C>A 44 C>B>A I argue that B shouldn't win because he/she is very likely to be a low utility compromise- the least worst. Many people on this list disagree with me and feel that B should win