Re: Arrow's axioms (was Re: [EM] Re: [Fwd: Election-methods digest, Vol 1 #525 - 9 msgs])

2004-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wrote: > http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2001-August/006566.html > Your response in that post, that Richard's proposed implementation didn't > capture the higher expressivity of dyadic ballots, Sorry, Richard Moore was responding to Roy Johnson's proposal

Re: Arrow's axioms (was Re: [EM] Re: [Fwd: Election-methods digest, Vol 1 #525 - 9 msgs])

2004-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forest Simmons wrote: > As near as I know, the only deterministic method that satisfies > neutrality, anonymity, and the strong FBC (instrumentally as opposed to > merely expressively) is a method that uses additional information beyond > the rankings. [It allows voters to augment their ranked bal

Re: Arrow's axioms (was Re: [EM] Re: [Fwd: Election-methods digest, Vol 1 #525 - 9 msgs])

2004-03-04 Thread Forest Simmons
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Steve Eppley wrote: > > I consider Arrow's axioms justifiable. In the decades > leading up to Arrow's theorem, economists and social > scientists had struggled in vain to find a good way to > compare different individuals' utility differences (known > in the literature as the

Arrow's axioms (was Re: [EM] Re: [Fwd: Election-methods digest, Vol 1 #525 - 9 msgs])

2004-03-03 Thread Steve Eppley
Ken Johnson wrote: -snip- > > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > >> But why did Arrow stipulate #1? (rank method) -snip- > Based on the preceding discussions, I infer the following: > (1) Arrow's theorem is based on an unjustified and > (according to the theorem's conclusion) ind

[EM] Re: [Fwd: Election-methods digest, Vol 1 #525 - 9 msgs]

2004-03-02 Thread Ken Johnson
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:36:33 -0800 From: Richard Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... Theorems are facts, not judgements, so it is incorrect to state that Arrow proved anything about a value judgement. However, the theorem is based on a set of (unproved) premises that supposedly (according to Arrow