Re: [EM] Re: Approval/Condorcet Hybrids

2005-01-20 Thread Forest Simmons
From: Ted Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [EM] Re: Approval/Condorcet Hybrids To: Jobst Heitzig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: election-methods-electorama.com@electorama.com, Ted Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 11 Jan 2005 at 14:40 PST, Jobst Heitzig wrote: But ... your

Re: [EM] Re: Approval/Condorcet Hybrids

2005-01-19 Thread Ted Stern
On 11 Jan 2005 at 14:40 PST, Jobst Heitzig wrote: >> >> But ... your argument that, if W differs from A, this implies "that W >> beat every candidate that A beats head to head" does not follow. It >> only implies that W has highest approval in U(A). > > No, Forest is right, he defined: >>> Let U(

[EM] Re: Approval/Condorcet Hybrids

2005-01-11 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Ted! You wrote: > One thing I find is that in elections with lots > of candidates, any strong method (Ranked Pairs, Schulze, River or > Short Ranked Pairs) quickly becomes mind-numbingly complicated for > the average voter, who would lose confidence in the outcome, > regardless of any Immunit

[EM] Re: Approval/Condorcet Hybrids

2005-01-11 Thread Ted Stern
On 10 Dec 2004 at 13:29 PST, Forest Simmons wrote: > Jobst's recent postings about complaints and their rebuttals, and "short > ranked pairs" has led me to the following Approval Condorcet hybrid: > > Ballots are ordinal with approval cutoff, equal rankings allowed. > > Let U(A) be the set of unco