RE: [EM] Re: Bucklin

2005-09-27 Thread Paul Kislanko
September 27, 2005 5:16 PM > To: election-methods-electorama.com@electorama.com > Subject: [EM] Re: Bucklin > > > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:45:11 -0500 > > From: "Paul Kislanko" > > Subject: [EM] RE: Bucklin > > > I still don't see why A+=B>others is

[EM] Re: Bucklin

2005-09-27 Thread Gervase Lam
> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:45:11 -0500 > From: "Paul Kislanko" > Subject: [EM] RE: Bucklin > I still don't see why A+=B>others is any different from A>B>others. OK. Another way to describe A+=B>others is A>B>>others, which is not quite the same

[EM] RE: Bucklin

2005-09-26 Thread Paul Kislanko
Title: Election-methods Digest, Vol 15, Issue 50 I still don't see why A+=B>others is any different from A>B>others.   I'm sorry, but A+=B is the same as A>B and A=B+ is the same as B>A. If a method uses the "+" to break ties it is only because it is a flawed method. From: Simmons,

[EM] RE: Bucklin

2005-09-24 Thread Simmons, Forest
Title: Election-methods Digest, Vol 15, Issue 50 Someone wrote: I think the "+" to show "I like B better than A even though I ranked A=B" disingenuous and unnecessary. If you prefer one of the equally ranked alterntatives more than the other, just don't rank them equally.   Forest Answers

RE: [EM] RE: Bucklin

2005-09-23 Thread Kevin Venzke
Forest, --- "Simmons, Forest " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > I like the modified ER Bucklin Whole version that Kevin and Mike have been > considering. I want to say: Although it's interesting that ERBW satisfies FBC and Majority, I think it differentiates among adjacent ranks so little that st

[EM] RE: Bucklin

2005-09-23 Thread Simmons, Forest
I like the modified ER Bucklin Whole version that Kevin and Mike have been considering. I have two suggestions that might make it more viable as a public proposal: 1. Keep the number of possible distinct ranks down to seven or eight, for ballot simplicity. 2. Allow a special mark "+" to b

[EM] Re: Bucklin

2005-09-22 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Kevin-- Yes, I prefer the ERBucklin(whole) that you described. I'd always assumed that a candidate 2nd place would get a vote in the 2nd round. But I prefer the verson that you described. How about this wording: ERBucklin(whole): Voters rank the candidates. Equal rankings and truncation are

[EM] Re: Bucklin-Condorcet PR (also Bucklin PR)

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Benham
Previously, on Friday, August 8, 2003 I posted a suggested ranked-ballot PR method that combines Generalized Bucklin and Condorcet. It wrongly included: "Equal preferences are divided into equal fractions (which sum to 1)". I now think it is fine if equal preference for A and B are counted Ap

Re: [EM] Re: Bucklin-Condorcet PR (also Bucklin PR)

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Benham
Dave Ketchum wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 06:57:33 +0930 Chris Benham wrote in part: Previously, on Friday, August 8, 2003 I posted a suggested ranked-ballot PR method that combines Generalized Bucklin and Condorcet. It wrongly included: "Equal preferences are divided into equal fractions (whi

Re: [EM] Re: Bucklin-Condorcet PR (also Bucklin PR)

2003-08-12 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 06:57:33 +0930 Chris Benham wrote in part: Previously, on Friday, August 8, 2003 I posted a suggested ranked-ballot PR method that combines Generalized Bucklin and Condorcet. It wrongly included: "Equal preferences are divided into equal fractions (which sum to 1)". I now

[EM] Re: Bucklin, MCA, and history

2003-07-16 Thread Kevin Venzke
Alex, --- Alex Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Your mention of the relationship between MCA and Bucklin brings to mind a > question: > > Does anybody on the list know how widespread Bucklin was in the US? I've > seen little blurbs when googling for Bucklin, but mostly it's "tried in > th