Re: [EM] Re: Implied ranked choice method

2004-09-01 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Again, not only multi-member districts can produce proportional results. It can be done with single-member districts using nominative ballots if one treats the information in a proper way to obtain a fully proportional representation (SPPA is only one example). In fact several multi-member

[EM] Re: Implied ranked choice method

2004-09-01 Thread Eric Gorr
At 10:58 PM + 8/31/04, Rob Brown wrote: Eric Gorr eric at ericgorr.net writes: You are welcome to show that such a strategic advantage would exist for MAM, using an example of a good Condorcet method. Not sure I understand you. If there is not an advantage to ranking them explicitly, why

[EM] Re: Implied ranked choice method

2004-08-31 Thread Rob Brown
Eric Gorr eric at ericgorr.net writes: At 8:50 PM + 8/31/04, Rob Brown wrote: Has anyone ever proposed such a thing? Yes. What do they call it? Is there any site out there which talks about it? With software, providing such a feature would be trivial. Each candidate could provide

[EM] Re: Implied ranked choice method

2004-08-31 Thread Rob Brown
Eric Gorr eric at ericgorr.net writes: If you choose to not pick one from this list, you can do the rankings yourself. I can't imagine this would not be important for general acceptance. People will want the option even if most do not use it. Well, one of the main marketing benefits of the

[EM] Re: Implied ranked choice method

2004-08-31 Thread Eric Gorr
At 10:09 PM + 8/31/04, Rob Brown wrote: Eric Gorr eric at ericgorr.net writes: If you choose to not pick one from this list, you can do the rankings yourself. I can't imagine this would not be important for general acceptance. People will want the option even if most do not use it. Well,

RE: [EM] Re: Implied ranked choice method

2004-08-31 Thread James Gilmour
Rob Brown Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:10 PM So, can you tell me a significant real world advantage to allowing voters explicitly rank them, other than simply speculating that they will demand it if it is not offered? Will the election actually produce significantly better results

[EM] Re: Implied ranked choice method

2004-08-31 Thread Rob Brown
Eric Gorr eric at ericgorr.net writes: You are welcome to show that such a strategic advantage would exist for MAM, using an example of a good Condorcet method. Not sure I understand you. If there is not an advantage to ranking them explicitly, why would you want to do so? On the one hand,

[EM] Re: Implied ranked choice method

2004-08-31 Thread Rob Brown
James Gilmour jgilmour at globalnet.co.uk writes: If you really believe in democracy as representation of the people I don't see how you can support any form of so called proxy voting in which you hand over this critical decision of choosing YOUR representative(s) to a candidate or a party.