Re: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:31 AM 10/4/2005, Rob Lanphier wrote: Normalization only works if there's not a third candidate forcing the distortion (e.g. candidate "C"): That is correct. Range Voting requires the same kind of strategic consideration as Approval Voting, a vote is diluted if cast at less than 100% 9

RE: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-05 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:34 PM 10/3/2005, Paul Kislanko wrote: If you think B "should" win, the point is made that Range voting won't pass. Anybody who loses 90-10 in plurality but wins in another system is just an argument against the other system. This argument has been pretty well demolished by Mr. Smith, I th

Re: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-03 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 23:24 -0400, Abd ulRahman Lomax wrote: > At 04:30 AM 10/3/2005, Rob Lanphier wrote: > >90 voters: A=7, B=6 > >10 voters: A=0, B=10 > > It has been proposed that Range votes be normalized, otherwise voters > who honestly recognize that no candidate is perfect and thus does n

RE: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-03 Thread Paul Kislanko
CTED] ] On Behalf Of Abd ulRahman Lomax > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will > people favorite-bury? > > At 04:30 AM 10/3/2005, Rob Lanphier wrote: > >90 v

Re: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-03 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 04:30 AM 10/3/2005, Rob Lanphier wrote: 90 voters: A=7, B=6 10 voters: A=0, B=10 It has been proposed that Range votes be normalized, otherwise voters who honestly recognize that no candidate is perfect and thus does not rank at least one as a 10 will suffer vote dilution. It is possible

Re: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-03 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Mike, On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 05:12 +, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: > You said that you don't think that significantly many people would > favorite-bury in a public BeatpathWinner election. > > A voter will favorite-bury if, for that voter, the important goal is to keep > an unacceptable candidate

[EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-02 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Rob-- You said that you don't think that significantly many people would favorite-bury in a public BeatpathWinner election. A voter will favorite-bury if, for that voter, the important goal is to keep an unacceptable candidate from winning, and if favorite-burial will increase the probabili