RE: [EM] STV can be hand counted...

2004-03-23 Thread Kevin Venzke
James, --- James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > (Gary prefers closed party list because he says it reduces the > > incentives for similar candidates to compete against each other > > by promising pork to their constituency. ... > > The difference between closed party list and STV-

RE: [EM] STV can be hand counted...

2004-03-23 Thread James Gilmour
> Steve Eppley > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:06 AM > Except that if the election will be counted by hand, then the > choice of variation of STV-PR is constrained: It must forbid > each voter from ranking candidates as equally preferred (except > at the bottom "truncated" part of her order

RE: [EM] STV can be hand counted...

2004-03-23 Thread James Gilmour
Stephane Rouillon > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:12 PM > STV is a good model. Could you > elaborate on the debate aspects? I'm not sure what your meant by "the debate aspects", but you may find what you are looking for on Fairshare's website: www.fairsharevoting.org Click on the "The story

Re: [EM] STV can be hand counted...

2004-03-17 Thread Steve Eppley
Hi, Stephane Rouillon a écrit : > James Gilmour a écrit : -snip- > > Computerisation, with electronic voting, may be the way > > forward, but there are still some problems to be overcome. > > But these problems relate to the voting method (electronic > > without an audit trail) and NOT to the v

Re: [EM] STV can be hand counted...

2004-03-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
James Gilmour a écrit : > Stephane, sorry if I sounded a little harsh in my one-word response. My problem is > that, as an > active campaigner for practical reform, I encounter comments about the complications > and "problems" > of STV-PR counting almost every week from those who are opposed

RE: [EM] STV can be hand counted...

2004-03-16 Thread James Gilmour
Stephane wrote: > First I meant long not hard and second if you've got the > (wo)manpower it is not really long. I'm sorry it was the > feeling I got after resolving alone 12 elections of 15 > candidates and 15 voters. So please everyone, I remove that > opinion, STV is perfectly feasible by h

[EM] STV can be hand counted...

2004-03-15 Thread Stephane Rouillon
I apologize: my mistake. First I ment long not hard and second if you've got the (wo)manpower it is not really long. I'm sorry it was the feeling I got after resolving alone 12 elections of 15 candidates and 15 voters. So please everyone, I remove that opinion, STV is perfectly feasible by hand