Re: [EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-27 Thread Curt Siffert
On May 17, 2005, at 8:31 PM, Russ Paielli wrote: If I am not mistaken, Arrow's theorem says that you can't satisfy both the Condorcet criterion *and* the independence of irrelevant alternatives (IIA). Should that bother us? I think it should bother us at least a bit. I am bothered by the

Re: [EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-18 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 11:31 PM 5/17/2005, Russ Paielli wrote: If I am not mistaken, Arrow's theorem says that you can't satisfy both the Condorcet criterion *and* the independence of irrelevant alternatives (IIA). Should that bother us? I think it should bother us at least a bit. I am bothered by the fact that

Re: [EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-17 Thread Russ Paielli
Curt Siffert siffert-at-museworld.com |EMlist| wrote: On May 14, 2005, at 9:07 PM, Russ Paielli wrote: The importance of IIAC is a matter of individual preference, of course, but it is a perfectly reasonable criterion. If I offer a group the choice of chocolate or vanilla ice cream, and they

[EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-15 Thread Alex Small
Arrow's result can best be reported as: Arrow proved that a few criteria that he likes are incompatible with eachother. I think there's more to it than that. It might not sound like such a big deal if you think of his criteria as just some guy's pet concerns. But I think there's a greater

Re: [EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-15 Thread Curt Siffert
On May 14, 2005, at 9:07 PM, Russ Paielli wrote: The importance of IIAC is a matter of individual preference, of course, but it is a perfectly reasonable criterion. If I offer a group the choice of chocolate or vanilla ice cream, and they choose chocolate, why should the additional choice of

[EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-14 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
When I read Curt's posting about Arrow, it was obvious to me that he was saying that Arrow's impossibility theorem is flawed by the unimportance of its criteria. Sure, who appointed Arrow to decide what criteria are reasonable or necessary or important? Arrow's result can best be reported as:

RE: [EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-14 Thread Paul Kislanko
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of MIKE OSSIPOFF Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem When I read Curt's posting about Arrow, it was obvious to me

Re: [EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-14 Thread Curt Siffert
On May 14, 2005, at 8:39 PM, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: Arrow's result can best be reported as: Arrow proved that a few criteria that he likes are incompatible with eachother. For some reason, many people have given those criteria undeserved status as the important criteria. This does beg the

Re: [EM] The issue of comments about Arrow's theorem

2005-05-14 Thread Russ Paielli
I'm going to take a big chance here and reply to Mike as if he were just another person. I actually agree with most of what he wrote. MIKE OSSIPOFF nkklrp-at-hotmail.com |EMlist| wrote: When I read Curt's posting about Arrow, it was obvious to me that he was saying that Arrow's impossibility