Re: [EM] non-deterministic methods

2004-12-28 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:04:13 -0800 Bart Ingles wrote: Forest Simmons wrote: What if we tossed two coins, and gave the win to B if they both came up heads, to C if they both came up tails, and to A otherwise. Looks like time for those too out of it to understand simple odds to go back in their

Re: [EM] non-deterministic methods

2004-12-28 Thread Brian Olson
On Dec 27, 2004, at 4:26 PM, Forest Simmons wrote: As Jobst recently pointed out, non-deterministic methods have not been adequately studied or promoted, considereing their potential contribution to fairness and to strategy free voting. They may be mathematically fair, but I find them

[EM] non-deterministic methods

2004-12-27 Thread Forest Simmons
As Jobst recently pointed out, non-deterministic methods have not been adequately studied or promoted, considereing their potential contribution to fairness and to strategy free voting. Consider, for example the following cycle of three: 34 ABC 33 BCA 33 CAB Though most methods would give

RE: [EM] non-deterministic methods

2004-12-27 Thread Paul Kislanko
Forest Simmons wrote: As Jobst recently pointed out, non-deterministic methods have not been adequately studied or promoted, considereing their potential contribution to fairness and to strategy free voting. Consider, for example the following cycle of three: 34 ABC 33 BCA

Re: [EM] non-deterministic methods

2004-12-27 Thread Bart Ingles
Forest Simmons wrote: What if we tossed two coins, and gave the win to B if they both came up heads, to C if they both came up tails, and to A otherwise. Wouldn't a random cycle-breaker provide strong incentive for a sure loser in a cycle-free election to try to create a cycle? Bart

Re: [EM] non-deterministic methods for better strategy proofness

2004-06-13 Thread Dave Ketchum
I get dizzy on his one but, if a majority of voters prefer B, why do they not simply vote B, and quit talking about strategy? Dave Ketchum On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:38:36 +0200 Jobst Heitzig wrote: Markus mentioned Pattanaiks work on strategy-proofness, and I read the book in the meantime. This and