Stephane Rouillon Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:41 AM
I never said that the electorate will was to identify itself
to some political parties.
I never said you did. MY comments (in full below) made absolutely no mention
of political parties.
I was concerned only to draw the distinction in
James,
I never said that the electorate will was to identify itself
to some political parties.
You mix the fact that I use political parties in SPPA to simplify ballot
treatment
in order to get nearer our common objective (a representative chamber that is
independent of party lines) and the
Juho just showed another way of using time to get some efficiency
without sacrifying fairness. A better example than any I could provide...
My sincere congratulations,
Steph.
Juho Laatu a écrit :
Hello James,
In the pirate example one could take a step in the direction of
proportional
Stephane Rouillon Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 5:44 AM
Criterias and electoral methods hare not meant to
cope for a fractionated electorate. An electoral system
goal is to get the electorate will, whatever it is.
This may be true for single-winner elections, eg city mayor, state governor,
but
At 06:25 AM 5/27/2005, James Gilmour wrote:
Those
steeped in social choice theory believe that the purpose of a voting
system should be to maximise representation of
consensus among the electors. But there is a much older view: that the
purpose of a voting system should be to maximise
Hello James,
In the pirate example one could take a step in the direction of
proportional representation and give up the original idea of single
winner elections. It is the captain that is to be elected, and there is
a tradition of having only one captain on a ship. In this situation one
Hello Stephane,
Yes. Electoral methods should aim at electing the candidate that is
best for the planned period (based on the will of the electors as
expressed in the ballots). Repetitive mutinies are thus something one
need not normally prepare for.
If the community can agree what the
On Behalf Of Abd ul-Rahman Lomax Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:30 PM
Proportional Representation, of course, advances the diversity position,
but also is based on a party system.
You are considering only one version of PR, ie party PR. With STV-PR (choice
voting) there need be no parties
Pirates should, after some repetitive election,
see the wisdom of defining a mandate length before
knowing who wins...
Criterias and electoral methods hare not meant to
cope for a fractionated electorate. An electoral system
goal is to get the electorate will, whatever it is. Stability
is a
Hi, this is James G-A replying to Juho...
My assumption was that the fact that there are four parties of about
equal size was known. Since I at some point said that these pirates
would be from different countries, maybe also the exact number of
people in each party is known. In most elections
Hi Juho,
Further replies follow on the topic of Smith methods vs.
minimax(margins)...
Sorry about causing some gray hair to you.
Sorry about being peevish in my reply.
track one
one where we talk about dynamics of
sequential mutinies and how the
Hi Juho,
Various replies follow, on the subject of voter strategy.
Condorcet is close to a dream come true in the sense that it almost
provides a perfect solution that eliminates all strategies from
elections and frees people to giving sincere votes only.
This is true only in
Hi Juho,
My critique of your pro-minimax(margins) argument follows...
I tend to see margins as natural and winning votes as something that
deviates from the more natural margins but that might be used somewhere
to eliminate strategic voting. (not a very scientific description but I
Hi Juho,
About your least additional votes method: Correct me if I'm wrong, but
I think that your method is equivalent to minimax (margins). Adding an
additional vote will decrease the margin of each of a candidates defeats
by one. So, the candidate whose widest-margin defeat is less wide
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