Re: [EM] Re: paradigms...

2004-09-08 Thread Bart Ingles
Damn, I should have read ahead... Rob Brown wrote: > > Paul Kislanko airmail.net> writes: > > > I find it amazing that the list thinks we should ignore voters' preferences > > when defining an election method. > > Well, if you are going to respect all their preferences, even if those > prefe

Re: [EM] Re: paradigms...

2004-09-08 Thread Bart Ingles
If you want to remove all ballot restrictions, you might as well allow the voter to indicate all four options simultaneously. Or at least A>B and B>A, which can easily be done on the same matrix. This is after all just another cyclical preference. Paul Kislanko wrote: > > Jobst's original sug

RE: [EM] Re: paradigms...

2004-09-08 Thread Paul Kislanko
Rob wrote: True, and you shouldn't be able to, because that is (in my opinion) illogical and contradictory. To which I reply "you are entitled to your opinion, but if you cannot prove that all orderings of n-1 candidates by a single voter will be consistent with the orderings of n candidates by T

RE: [EM] Re: paradigms...

2004-09-08 Thread Paul Kislanko
Jobst's original suggestion was that voters be allowed to rank A and B equally, A>B, B>A or neither A nor B. It was dismissed as unnecessary since he could just create a ranked ballot from which his individual preferences could be inferred. That is not possible. It wasn't about whether his choi

Re: [EM] Re: paradigms...

2004-09-08 Thread Stephane Rouillon
I agree with Rob. All the different unusual pairwise preferences sets (disjoint, cyclic or containing equal preferences or any combinations) are a contribution to the election. It only uses other votes to precise its linear ccomplete ranking equivalent. Is that a good choice for a voter? Personnal