Re: [EM] IRV in action

2003-04-02 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:46:44 +0100 James Gilmour wrote in part: >>On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 22:38:15 -0800 Rob Lanphier wrote: > >>>In this particular >>>election, there's no knowing how many of the 115 ballots accumulated by >>>Montgomery of Alamein (the runner up) in the 42nd round actually listed >>>U

[EM] Re: Strong Favourite Betrayal Criterion at last!

2003-04-02 Thread Chris Benham
Forest, My answer to your question "Is there a simpler method that factors allof the strategy away from the rankings or ratings of the candidates?" is yes. Voters can rank and also Approve whichever candidates they please, not even neccessarily Approving the candidate they rank as number1. The

[EM] Re: Strong Favourite Betrayal Criterion at last!

2003-04-02 Thread Forest Simmons
Good example! I passed over this one in my quest for the Strong FBC because, as you point out, optimal strategy sometimes requires not approving favorite, which most folks would consider as betrayal of favorite. But it does have its appeal as an honest way of eliciting sincere rankings. It could

RE: [EM] IRV in action

2003-04-02 Thread Adam Tarr
James Gilmour wrote: But the thinking behind the use of the word in this context is also instructive. You have to remember that IRV is nothing more than a convenient method of condensing an exhaustive ballot into one voting operation. (It also avoids all the horse-trading that typically takes p

RE: [EM] IRV in action

2003-04-02 Thread Alex Small
Adam Tarr said: > James Gilmour wrote: > >>But the thinking behind the use of the word in this context is also >> instructive. >>You have to remember that IRV is nothing more than a convenient method >> of condensing an exhaustive ballot into one voting operation. (It also >> avoids all >>the hor

Re: [EM] Re: Strong Favourite Betrayal Criterion at last!

2003-04-02 Thread Alex Small
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Chris Benham wrote: > Forest, > My answer to your question "Is there a simpler method that factors > allof the strategy away from the rankings or ratings of the > candidates?" is yes. Voters can rank and also Approve whichever > candidates they please, not even neccessarily App