Re: [EM] Approval strategy puzzle

2001-03-01 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
1. As the fourth voter, with utilities A = 100, B = 70, and C = 0, how should you vote: A or AB? As I was saying, vote only for A, if you're letting them flip coins. 2. Explain how you arrived at the answer to #1. For each of the 8 equiprobable ways that those 3 people could all vote,

[EM] Puzzle typo

2001-03-01 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
I might have said "Add the expressions and solve for Ub", when I meant to say "Add the expressions for the 8 situations, set their sum equal to zero, and solve for Ub." Mike Ossipoff _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

[EM] Condorcet vs Approval

2001-03-01 Thread Forest Simmons
I have ambiguous feelings about my two favorite methods. Sometimes it seems like Condorcet is over-elaborate, making fine distinctions between the deck chairs on the sinking Titanic. (How's that for a mixed metaphor?) On the other hand, there are times when Approval strategy leaves me in a

Re: [EM] Approval strategy puzzle

2001-03-01 Thread Joe Weinstein
On Tues. eve., suitably enfeebled, I turned to Richard's Approval Strategy puzzle and argued basically as Mike suggests. Voter #4 should vote both A and B if B has utility Ub and vote just A if B has utility Ub, where - if my arithmetic was correct - Ub = (5/6)*100 = 83 1/3. Joe

Re: [EM] Condorcet vs Approval

2001-03-01 Thread Ultra Runner
Forest Simmons wrote: I have ambiguous feelings about my two favorite methods. Sometimes it seems like Condorcet is over-elaborate, making fine distinctions between the deck chairs on the sinking Titanic. (How's that for a mixed metaphor?) On the other hand, there are times when

Re: [EM] Condorcet vs Approval

2001-03-01 Thread Martin Harper
Forest Simmons wrote: I have a couple of suggested compromises starting with Condorcet and moving towards Approval, but stopping short of ordinary Approval. Looking at just the first for now... I. Condorcet. I prefer the version of Condorcet that allows voters to give a partial preference

[EM] Solution to approval strategy puzzle, Part 1

2001-03-01 Thread Richard Moore
I am posting this in two parts. The first part discusses the puzzle's solution and the second part uses the problem as the basis for an example of what I called "strategy matrix" in an earlier post. I'm not sure if I previously made it clear what I meant by that phrase. First, thanks to Mike and

[EM] Solution to approval strategy puzzle, Part 2

2001-03-01 Thread Richard Moore
Now that we've calculated the raw probabilities, what do I mean by "strategy matrix" and all those delta Ps? With the probabilities known for each outcome, we can calculate how a specific way of voting affects the probabilities. In particular, we are interested in the difference between voting

RE: Reply to: [EM] Multiple Winner Elections

2001-03-01 Thread LAYTON Craig
Don wrote: Your two person co-chair election should be conducted as follows: 1) Divide the total votes by the number of seats. This is known as the Hare Quota. You should get two halves. One half will end up on one candidate and the other half will end up on another candidate. Do

RE: [EM] Condorcet vs Approval

2001-03-01 Thread LAYTON Craig
Joe wrote (in relation to Forest's Condorcet//Approval compromise): I like it - was considering the same thing myself (Smith//Approval, I guess it'd be called). If there's only strategy in Condorcet methods if there's a tie, then it'd make sense to resolve the tie using methods which have